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Are Dannish people aware of how popular Socialdemokratiet party is among Polish people in Poland?
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imSpejderMan at 2024-03-24 12:36:32+00:00 ID:
kwbxltrSocialdemoktratiet isn’t really left wing anymore. It’s more somewhere around the center maybe leaning a big left, but very much so right in other instances. I do doubt that they’ll win the next election considering the last few years, but people tend to forget quite quickly so maybe I’m wrong.
SendStoreMeloner at 2024-03-24 12:56:49+00:00 ID:
kwc000tIt's center left and always have been.
Tychus_Balrog at 2024-03-24 13:04:26+00:00 ID:
kwc0xg3Before the 90s it was very much a leftist party
SendStoreMeloner at 2024-03-24 13:06:15+00:00 ID:
kwc15gtSF was always more left and so was the communist and Venstre Socialisterne.
That still places Socialdemokratiet on center left.
Tychus_Balrog at 2024-03-24 13:09:28+00:00 ID:
kwc1jz5Yes, they were far left. But Socialdemokratiet was still left. And if we go back to the beginning of the party they had their far shair of far leftists as well. This was before SF was even a thing.
They were talking about genuine socialism in those days.
Jakutsk at 2024-03-24 18:03:21+00:00 ID:
kwdbrioYeah, true. Even as far as the 60s they were talking about moving onto socialism.
Nervous-Plate-4409 at 2024-03-24 12:46:43+00:00 ID:
kwbyss9If they win next election, I will no longer identify as a dane. And I won’t trust any other dane. And I will move to another country.
MT_Cubes at 2024-03-24 13:00:18+00:00 ID:
kwc0f5nThey will win again. Im not a fan, but the middle almost always wins, and they taken many of the right wing politics in. They are the biggest party. They will stay in power, and I think it will take a while to push them out with the other parties being so small/weak
OrdinaryValuable9705 at 2024-03-24 14:14:01+00:00 ID:
kwcabijSocialdemokratiet isnt the middle anymore tho, they are very fucking clearly right wing - and they are suffering for it. Many of the old Socialdemokrats of the past must be spinning in their graves hearing Mette F. BS and seeing the how the government is being run now.
DumtDoven at 2024-03-24 12:50:20+00:00 ID:
kwbz893I hate Socialdemokratiet. I hate Venstre and Moderaterne even more.
Nervous-Plate-4409 at 2024-03-24 13:41:19+00:00 ID:
kwc5p69Enig.
NoobInArms at 2024-03-24 13:02:11+00:00 ID:
kwc0nfeHvorfra kommer sådan en dramatisk udtalelse?
Nervous-Plate-4409 at 2024-03-24 13:34:49+00:00 ID:
kwc4tskFølger du med i politik?
NoobInArms at 2024-03-24 14:28:53+00:00 ID:
kwcciroNok ikke så meget som jeg burde. Jeg kan ihvertfald ikke komme på noget, der er blevet gjort under Mette, som jeg kan forestille ville være grælt nok, til at en person ville emigrere
Nervous-Plate-4409 at 2024-03-24 14:42:53+00:00 ID:
kwcenlwOverdrivelse fremmer forståelse.
Men jeg kan ikke komme på noget, der ville få mig til at stemme på hende/dem igen.
SpringrollJack at 2024-03-24 15:59:25+00:00 ID:
kwcqv67Folk indenfor sundhed har fået 5000kr ish mere i løn, come on
NoobInArms at 2024-03-24 15:03:18+00:00 ID:
kwchuenJeg vil erkende, at hun er en dygtig politiker, både mht. at navigere magtstrukturerne på Christiansborg og have fingeren på pulsen hvad angår arbejderklassens ønsker og bekymringer. Jeg er ikke personlig begejstret for hendes politik, men synes heller ikke at hun er katastrofalt forfærdelig for Danmarks fremtid.
De eneste folkefærd jeg kan komme i tanke om, som måske ville være mere til min smag end danskerne, ville være nordmændene eller new zealænderne. Hvor ville du prøve at skabe dig et nyt hjem?
xX-Diohs-Xx at 2024-03-25 10:31:06+00:00 ID:
kwgthbaDet kan godt være hun har fingeren på pulsen, men så er det godt nok heller ikke mere hun har... Der er ingen tillid til danske politikere og deres populisme, og hun er pt den værste.
BitchPleaseImAT-Rex at 2024-03-24 13:40:01+00:00 ID:
kwc5itzYou do you
icleanredditnice at 2024-03-24 16:27:46+00:00 ID:
kwcviyghow can you just decide they arent "really left wing anymore?" like because you dont like their politics?
blolfighter at 2024-03-24 16:45:23+00:00 ID:
kwcyggpBecause their policies are centrist rather than left-wing.
imSpejderMan at 2024-03-24 16:55:19+00:00 ID:
kwd04ypLeft wing isn’t exactly known for tax cuts, anti immigration policies and many more things. It’s pretty clear that their policies have changed over the past 20+ years.
manfredmannclan at 2024-03-24 17:33:11+00:00 ID:
kwd6kgeThey did raise taxes about 58 times the last couple of years, so i think they are good for making one cut.
imSpejderMan at 2024-03-24 17:39:00+00:00 ID:
kwd7knnLet me rephrase: tax cuts for the upper/upper middle class. Granted it’s tax cuts decided together with the right wing, but still part of their policy.
Also it’s just an example of what makes them less leftist than they were before. There’s many more reasons that I did not mention
FifaDK at 2024-03-24 19:01:03+00:00 ID:
kwdlhzoYeah, A really aren't left wing and have never been so in my life time. They've been center left and making moves towards the right from that for many years.
KarnuRarnu at 2024-03-24 17:20:45+00:00 ID:
kwd4g8bThe left/right wing refers to the placement around parliament. Of course a 1D projection of "all politics" is a gross simplification, but nevertheless the point is that it's all relative. S is left wing if they are left of the center, simple as that. So you can't say they aren't left wing because of their politics, you have to argue their relative position in politics to say they aren't left wing. And that hasn't really changed - everyone short of Ø and SF are still to the right of them.
royalexport54 at 2024-03-24 20:45:57+00:00 ID:
kwe31ozNo, you really don't have to do that. You can absolutely define it in terms of their policy changes. There is nothing wrong in comparing their current politics to their historic stances and conclude whether they are or are moving more left or right.
Jakutsk at 2024-03-24 18:02:38+00:00 ID:
kwdbn3oThat's a recent change for "left wing" parties in Europe. "Left wing" parties used to be more anti-immigrant, which is actually a more logical position. It's market liberals who want more immigration for obvious reasons.
Doedshunden at 2024-03-24 18:25:13+00:00 ID:
kwdfgtlWell socialist (left wing) ideology has traditionally been internationalist and anti-nationalistic, anti ethnocentric etc
Jakutsk at 2024-03-24 18:26:49+00:00 ID:
kwdfqk4Yes, but as far as I know, socialist/social-democratic parties across Europe still kept very tight border controls for most of their history, before opening up in the 80s.
icleanredditnice at 2024-03-24 18:38:38+00:00 ID:
kwdhpyileft wing are exactly anti immigration, see løndumping etc, left wing parties in the 70's in Denmark were heavily into tax cutes too