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[–] [email protected] 64 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It is ironic that google touts RCS as a "open platform", when you have to use google's implementation of it.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It is not only ironic but pathetic. They promote it as the new open standard and people who just don't look further into the details believe it.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago

I think the fact that no other app can do RCS messages on Android also undermines Google's case when they are pushing for Apple to adopt RCS, and I think Apple should absolutely roast them over this.

Signed a rooted Android user.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Isn't Google Messages tied to an account?

Couldn't they just block the accounts that are spamming?

Why the hell does this have to be about the phone's "integrity"?

It's genuinely disgusting how Google talks about unlocked bootloaders and rooting. They talk about it like Apple talks about side loading apps: some offensive, gross aberration of their beautiful ecosystem, when what they're talking about is their own customers using their own device how they like.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Messages is the default texting app. It doesn't require any sort of login.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

It's not always the default though

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago

yet google keeps touting it as an "open" standard

[–] ilovededyoupiggy 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Play Integrity Fix magisk module fixes it. For now, anyway. I had PIF 15.1 previously and my RCS stopped working a few weeks ago. I just updated to 15.9.2 and now it's working again. I imagine it'll be a cat and mouse game like everything else having to do with rooted phones.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure it was PIF. I updated PIF on my phone, but not my husband's and RCS started working a few hours later on both

[–] ilovededyoupiggy 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I dunno. I changed nothing else at all, updated PIF, rebooted phone, opened Messages, and like, it was immediately in rcs mode. It even received a couple old messages that has apparently been waiting on it to finally connect. Certainly possible that it was something else, maybe updating PIF happened to flush a cache somewhere, I dunno. If it wasn't PIF directly, it was either a huge coincidence or some other indirect side effect of updating, cuz that was the only thing I touched, and it magically fixed the problem for me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So Google is shit, Apple is shit... What's the option here? Is there any way to realistically avoid either of them?

Why must we deal with this duopoly over the most important device in our lives?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

RCS wasn't working for a few hours on my and my husband's phones the other day, but resolved a few hours later. No problems since or before

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Both rooted

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

A long time ago, Google stopped doing updates on rooted phones. It's why I stopped rooting my phone. Doing Android updates by reinstalling the latest release every couple months was a PITA. Also, Google finally got the Restore from last Backup working to the point that I didn't have to rely on a backup utility that required rooting my phone. Ah, the early days of Android.

Not being able to rely on RCS from rooted phones makes sense security-wise. You can't trust what's attached to that message. It could be a code injection hack.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Not being able to rely on RCS from rooted phones makes sense security-wise. You can't trust what's attached to that message. It could be a code injection hack.

It makes no sense at all security-wise. It is always a bad idea to rely on the security of a client that you don't own or control.

Your statement makes the assumptions that Google can detect every rooted device and there's no possible other way to send RCS messages. Neither are true.