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[–] [email protected] 150 points 9 months ago (2 children)

white supremacy codified in precedent. faaaaaaantaastic.

fucking conservatives assholes.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Conserving a racial hierarchy, it was right there in the name the whole time.

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[–] [email protected] 118 points 9 months ago (8 children)

There seems to be little doubt that Defendants, or at least some members of RAM, engaged in criminal violence. But they cannot be selected for prosecution because of their repugnant speech and beliefs over those who committed the same violence with the goal of disrupting political events

That's actually part of the judge's decision. "These people are guilty, but since you didn't prosecute those other people, too bad."

[–] [email protected] 83 points 9 months ago (2 children)

“I don’t believe it’s warranted that Mr. Rundo spend one minute more in custody, so I’m going to release him forthwith,” Carney said. “I feel very comfortable in the decision I’ve made.”

Of course he feels comfortable with that. He's one of the white supremacists.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago

He’s a white hooded judge. Of course he’s comfortable.

[–] jballs 13 points 9 months ago

Rundo was accused not just of organizing the violent confrontations, but also of attacking protesters and police officers. After Rundo was ordered by police to stop attacking a “defenseless person” during the Berkeley protest, he allegedly punched an officer twice in the head, according to an arrest warrant.

I'd be willing to bet that the majority of this judge's supporters have Thin Blue Line bumper stickers and still support this decision.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not allowed to punish white folks until you punish just as many minorities. (Think about that math...)

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I've brought this up before but I'll say it again: I have never met a member of a group of violent and organized far left extremists, or anyone who identifies as Antifa, to the point that I have trouble believing they exist. I've met some far left wackos, but none claiming to be organized or in cahoots with other far left wackos, and most of their violence was in speech only.

But I've met way too many far right knuckleheads who'd be all too happy to shoot someone.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (18 children)

Similarly, the only time you would hear someone described as 'woke' just a few years ago is if one black person talked about another black person about being aware of racial injustice.

And then there was "social justice warrior," which, like antifa, is not actually a thing. But if it was, the #1 candidate would be their hero Jesus.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

I'm certain other judges will be stoked to see people cite this in future cases. "You can't punish me because other people did similar things and aren't part of this trial. Here's an earlier case where the court has decided that way."

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

"Arrest the President of Antifa immediately for unauthorized libbing."

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[–] [email protected] 109 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's even has a name: conservatism!

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[–] [email protected] 95 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

So the charges, crimes, evidence, and jury don't matter. It's all cleared because bOtH sIdEs nonsense. Hey judge I have an idea, if other people commit crimes then prosecute them. I wonder if he's close to realizing why you don't see much on the 'other side' (the why is that there is no violent far left committing crimes. Or if you want to be pedantic, it's incredibly, vastly minuscule compared to the violent far right.)

I'm starting to understand better and better how countries fall into strongmen and fascism. It's unreal.

“Prosecuting only members of the far right and ignoring members of the far left leads to the troubling conclusion that the government believes it is permissible to physically assault and injure Trump supporters to silence speech,” Carney wrote in his order.

Did he just say the far right and Trump supporters are one and the same? Lolol.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago

I'm not necessarily saying there should be a violent far left committing crimes. . . but the right keep trying to both-sides their terrorism shit, that's how you get a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Rundo was accused not just of organizing the violent confrontations, but also of attacking protesters and police officers. After Rundo was ordered by police to stop attacking a “defenseless person” during the Berkeley protest, he allegedly punched an officer twice in the head, according to an arrest warrant.

I have a feeling if someone with "far left" beliefs showed up in his courtroom with the same charges, he wouldn't hesitate to throw the book at them. This decision seems ripe for overturning on appeal, since he literally says in his decision "there's no doubt they committed these violent acts."

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

US District Judge and White Supremacist Cormac J Carney

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's future Republican Supreme Court nominee white supremacist Cormac J Carney to you bub.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Nah, he's already 64 years old. Unfortunately, the current game is nominate Justices who can hold on to their seats for decades and decades.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Of course there is a bias against neo-nazi fascists in this country. See, there’s this little thing called World War II that we all learned about in school where millions died and the world joined forces to put a stop to nazis. So I suspect a vast majority of adults these days think nazis are scum of the earth. And rightfully so.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No worries, they plan on completely solving that problem. Just gotta stop learning about it in school, problem solved.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 9 months ago (2 children)

"There's a bias against folks who want to do race based violence, and I just can't have that in America."

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago

That's a bit biased, dont you think? They also support religiously motivated violence.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Can we have a bais for removing piece of shit Fox "News" addled brain rotted so-called "judges" too?

[–] [email protected] 46 points 9 months ago

Whatabout is now a criminal defense, if you are a white supremacist.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 9 months ago

There's more about this asshole judge's college football career than his legal career in his Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cormac_J._Carney

[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago

Yea, there is. We called it WW2.

Don't start shit and there won't be shit. That part is unbiased.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

So by dismissing the case, the judge here is allowing people to get away with punching officers in the face (only if you're right wing).

How does this align in any way with their Blue Lives Matter aligned ideology?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Well then those migrants in New York that tried to fight the cops off the migrant they tackled must all be dismissed on this precedent as well?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

dismissed on this president

FYI it's "precedent"

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago

bias against the far right

They say that like it's a bad thing, I'm all for a bias against fascism

[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Remember when the Right used to scream about Judicial Activism?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

Every finger pointed is an admission of guilt from those pieces of shit.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Commenting again because I don't want anyone looking at the modlog to draw an absolutely wrong conclusion (for apparently a second time): It looks like distinguishing between discussing the possibility that violence, vigilante and otherwise, might be the result of these kinds of decisions, and advocating the same--which neither I nor, best I can tell, anyone else here has done--is a level of nuance that may be too much to ask. So be it, but accusing me of advocating violence in a public forum is an accusation to which I'm afraid I must vehemently and publicly respond and deny.

"When people can no longer rely on the courts to adjudicate crime, they will adjudicate it themselves. The next agent who catches up with this nazi might decide it's not worth the trouble to bring him back alive." To be quite clear: I think this is a bad thing, because I'm an officer of the courts of this country, and vigilantism should be avoided at all costs just because guillotines don't have good judgment, if for no other reason. But it may be a result all the same, and hushing those who whisper of its spectre, even with the best of intentions, will not prevent it.

Remove this one as well, and let of it a record be. [And mods, if you don't want the modlog discussed, add that to the rules.]

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

It's pretty sad that your comments were removed, as discussing the logical conclusion of these situations is important.

We can't simply plug our ears and ignore the very real dangers of the justice system failing to punish people (whether justified or not). When people determine they have no other recourse, political violence is the logical conclusion of such a situation.

It's a terrible thing that there is a real chance for political violence to become mainstream, and simply ignoring that possibility is more dangerous than addressing it openly.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago

"Would somebody please think of the white supremacists!" /s

Fuck this judge.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago

Yes reality is very biased against White Supremacists and their political cronies.

Why isn't that judge ?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago

The Good - White-supremacist who had to be chased to Romania after fleeing, will go back in jail (if caught), after an emergency appeal from the state

The Bad - A District Judge released an all-but-convicted violent Nazi, citing checks notes “both sides”, and SET NO CONDITIONS FOR THAT RELEASE, despite the prosecution’s protests and his proven track record of running from the law:

“Due to the district court’s order, Rundo will be released imminently, at which point he will be under no bond conditions or travel restraints,” according to the motion by Assistant U.S. Attorney Bram Alden, who is chief of the Los Angeles office’s Criminal Appeals Section.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Basically admitting to being a Nazi fuck.

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