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The state's highest court reversed a judge's dismissal of the case involving embryos destroyed by a wandering Mobile hospital patient.

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[–] [email protected] 241 points 6 months ago (7 children)

Alabama families who are struggling with fertility can now look forward to no fertility clinics willing to endure the legal risk of operating in that state.

Great job republicans. These weird ass “pro life” laws continue to prevent people who want kids from having them, or prevent people from having them without dying.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Not to mention those who can afford to will simply leave to make families elsewhere. Making a child generally tends to rank higher on people's priorities list than staying in one state forever.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Especially when that state is Alabama.

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[–] meat_popsicle 54 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Good news: fundies agree with you. They always hated IVF and view infertility as God’s judgment on you as a person.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 6 months ago (1 children)

(unless it happens to them personally, of course)

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

Seems like part of the goal. Outlaw abortion, force everyone who doesn't want a child to hand it over to the state, which will outsource to religious organizations, and then tighten up the child supply so anyone who can't have but wants a child will have to go through a local church to get access, and the price will go up.

Win win win for the religious fanatics.

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[–] [email protected] 146 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Soon it'll be illegal to end your ovulation cycle because every egg is a life. Jesus these people are some fucking dumb religious zealots.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 6 months ago (2 children)

They aren't dumb. They're evil and trying to enslave women to reproductive labor.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 months ago

Many are both. The intelligently evil ones are being overrun by stupid, cruel hicks.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No no... I've met many that are really fucking dumb. The evil ones are the people in charge, convincing them of the bullshit.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's what makes them so incredibly dangerous.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

The stupid sword cuts everyone including its owner.

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[–] [email protected] 94 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It won't be long before the Monty Python song about every sperm being sacred, becomes the MAGA crowds mantra. Wankers that they are.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I gotta confess. Cuz the guilt is overwhelming.

In my teens and early twenties, I committed A LOT of sacrilege on a daily basis.

We're talking millions of coulda-been-babies that ended up wrapped in tissue and tossed into trash cans.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (3 children)

If it was millions and not billions, you might want to see a doc if you ever plan on having kids

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Bloody Catholics filling the bloody world with bloody children they can't afford to bloody feed.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (2 children)

That's what being a Protestant's all about. That's why it's the church for me. That's why it's the church for anyone who respects the individual and the individual's right to decide for him or herself. When Martin Luther nailed his protest up to the church door in fifteen- seventeen, he may not have realised the full significance of what he was doing, but four hundred years later, thanks to him, my dear, I can wear whatever I want on my John Thomas,... [sniff] ...and, Protestantism doesn't stop at the simple condom! Oh, no! I can wear French Ticklers if I want

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 6 months ago (15 children)

bOtH sIdEs aRe tHe sAmE!!!

The fuck they are. If you are a woman voting republican you are OK with other people telling you what to do with your body.

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Sooo how does it work when you've done a successful IVF and still got a bunch of Frozen embryos waiting somewhere? Do you get back at home and put them in the freezer until you die? Are you mandated to carry them to term? What if a woman dies in a car accident before she had a chance to carry the embryo? Is the man mandated to find someone to carry them to term? I have so many questions

[–] [email protected] 96 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Declare them all as dependents and apply for their welfare checks, and see what they say

[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 months ago

GQP: No not like that!

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago

I get you are just making a joke but I hate responses like this, it completely misses the point. It's like those dumb carpool memes. It just doesn't work like that.

Fascists absolutely do not care about consistent ideology. Their goal is to hurt people, it's about power and disciplining/terrorizing the working class. We are cattle to them, our only purpose for existing is to serve and if we get too uppity they turn the screws. They are trying to systematically hurt and depower certain groups of people, not apply some consistent ideology. They will always just do whatever gives them power and takes power away from the groups they have deemed lower.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I would imagine you have to pay to store them until you can find an out of state clinic to take them and dispose of them. This won't result in fewer embryo terminations. It will likely just mean IVF will be more expensive.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 6 months ago

Don't forget kids, a miscarriage is murder.

Slavery is freedom.

Those with money are the only people who matter, and whoever has the most is the one who deserves to decide every aspect of how everyone else should live.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 6 months ago (2 children)

So ... if they are people ... and they aren't used for 21 years ... can their infant form but alcohol?

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 6 months ago (4 children)

IVF results in children being born who otherwise would not have been. These are women who want to be pregnant and give birth. Yet, the pro-life movement is trying to destroy this kind of healthcare.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (10 children)

I for one am sick and tired of everyone talking about freedom and 2A rights when nobody has done a single fucking thing about the obvious tyranny.

There's another thread begging us not to excoriate Alabama citizens because of a few corrupt politicians and religious wackos. NO. I was born there. My family are there. And they are a bunch of psychotic freedom-hating, gun-toting, bible-thumping neanderthal psychopaths just like their politicians are.

Here are the facts: the people whining and complaining about this sit there and take it. It's always someone else; it's never the psychotic lunatics in their own family, so they take it. If only all those other people would speak up and do something.

My brother has spent his lifetime campaigning for pro-life causes whenever he can because he went to a psychotic christian university. I don't have anything to do with him. His only son killed himself at 13 in a gun mishap but he is masturbating FURIOUSLY over this AL SupCourt decision.

This WILL continue until you ACTUALLY FIGHT IT. If you have no intention to or think that's somehow barbaric, then sit down and shut the fuck up.

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[–] Varyk 39 points 6 months ago

Whoops, no they aren't.

Made a whoopsie there, Alabama

[–] 9488fcea02a9 30 points 6 months ago

If embryos are children, then make it illegal to freeze them and lock them away in an ice box.... That's a cruel form of torture

[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 months ago

This is your brain on Christianity

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago

That doesn't seem right. I assume they're suing to cover the cost of redoing the procedure, but I don't think the court should be setting this precedent. There must be another law they could sue under. (And hopefully they didn't get complete sterilization after freezing those embryos.)

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If they’re people they should be given ARs and put on the street to spread freedom.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So if they are children we can take them off our taxes? I joke but that same thinking happened in Georgia when the pregnant woman used the HOV lane being the only person in the car.

https://www.liveaction.org/news/georgia-opens-hov-lanes-pregnant-women/

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Next up: Masturbation is mass murder. Every Sperm is Sacred!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (7 children)

The patient removed embryos from the freezer, and “it is believed that the cryopreservation’s subzero temperatures burned the eloping patient’s hands, causing him or her to drop the cryopreserved embryonic human beings on the floor, where they began to slowly die,” one of the filings stated.

So the patient killed his or her frozen embryos and now they're suing the clinic for wrongful death of a minor. Makes sense on so many levels.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This patient killed three other couple's embryos, not their own. The clinic is being sued and I assume (can't find confirmation) that this patient is also getting sued.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

~~Hold up, this sounds like unfertilized eggs. Does this mean that every period a woman has, where she passes an unfertilized egg is a wrongful death?! What in the FUUUUUCK...~~

I am an idiot, excuse me.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Embryos develop after fertilization.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

Ah okay - I never realized that distinction; or I did, but I'm having a moment. :D

Additionally, I didn't realize embryos could be frozen.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago

Not only can they be frozen, but when they're frozen and you drop them in coca cola light, they work even better than mentos!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It’s quite common. People do it all the time for IVF.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I like your attitude! More people like you in this world, please!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm willing to admit when I'm wrong, but I promise you the world needs far less of people like me. I have far too many mental illnesses to count and don't play nice with others; even though I have an optimistic view of what humanity COULD be, and a general disillusionment because of seeing what humanity currently is.

But thank you all the same ;)

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Stfu, you're mentally ill, you don't know what we need more of in this world. MORE OF YOU, MORE OF YOU, MORE OF YOU. 🥰

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