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[–] [email protected] 132 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Kinda doxxing myself a bit but we actually don't have that many migrants in MS. Most of the ones I have seen as well tend to work family businesses and they migrated way before the new wave of immigration.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

2% of MS population is people in first generation in the US, mostly people from Central America

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

First generation doesn't mean migrant. Migrants cross the border to work but live in their home nation.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Migrants are people who migrate.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"Migrant worker" has a specific meaning.

This is not a hot take by me. This is just you not knowing what words mean

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You didn't say "migrant worker," you said "migrant." All words have specific meaning, that's not a hot take either.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If only you had the context of an entire comment chain to pull from

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The chain starts off talking about children. A lot of children commuting internationally to MS these days? Are we granting work visas to children all of a sudden? Clearly no one in this thread is working from the same definitions, but that's actually how language works. Specificity is key if you don't want to be misunderstood.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

but it's all the way up there ^

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Confidently taking about a completely different topic 🤦‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you live near this plant?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

About 45 minutes out, I actually go to Hattiesburg pretty often too.

[–] [email protected] 119 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Pardon my delicate city sensibilities but I don’t think children should be working in meat processing plants surrounded by death and danger.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have they not read "The Jungle"? Pretty sure this exact sort of thing was addressed a hundred years ago.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the thing about The Jungle was that we were supposed to read it and think "people need better working conditions" but a shockingly large number of people read it and thought "we need some sort of filtering system in place to keep all those immigrant thumbs out of the sausage"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I aimed for their hearts but I hit them in their stomachs

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought it was actually illegal for him to be working there? Maybe I misread another post.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You’re right, I hadn’t read that yet at the time I posted this.

Retraction: It appears that minors are not allowed to be working in meat processing plants, but that he was hired by an external staffing contractor who did not properly adhere to those restrictions.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

hired by an external staffing contractor who did not properly adhere to those restrictions

All by design...

[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Now this is what Republicans really want.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago

"From their perspective, life begins at conception and ends at birth" -Barney Frank, 1981

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

no no they also what kids to work with out the need for parents to consent and to pay the child less then minimum wage

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago

That’s practically old age in the republicans mind

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So no real info realesed yet on how he died other than due to an "accident"

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

They won't be releasing anything until the depositions or criminal investigations force them to disclose all the grisley details.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Should've been careful around those sharp talons.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (6 children)

That's a good point. I don't know anything about poultry processing plants, but is there dangerous (to human) equipment in these facilities, and why would a 16 year old be using said equipment? I remember working at Wendy's and I wasn't even allowed to use the chicken fryer at that age.

[–] oSillyScope 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Republicans have been rolling back child labor regulations and protections in multiple states claiming it will save us from the labor shortage. I'm surprised it has taken me this long to see a story about the predictably disastrous results of this exploitative behavior. In the US capitalism is winning and the citizens of this country are losing.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

July 1st, a 16-year-old died in a sawmill accident in northern Wisconsin. At the same time, the gerrymandered-as-hell state legislature is trying to eliminate child labor laws. Thank god we currently have a governor with a modicum of decency to veto the garbage.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

"Immigrants will take our jobs!"

"No one wants to work anymore!"

"Let's hire children to fix the labor shortages"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I worked at a Foster Farms processing facility, and even in just the shipping department there are machines that could take your fucking head off and other things that could crush you if you're not paying attention (which is hard because it's also dark and loud). The rest of the plant is just as dangerous, if not more so. It's one of the reasons I quit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, my money is on the kid being inside a machine that you're not supposed to be in, plus not being properly locked out/tagged out. When you're a kid and the boss says "go clean out the machine", you don't really think "hmm, maybe there's a safer way to do this", you think "boss says do it, so it must be okay". You just don't have the experience.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Pretty sure it's just a Napoleon Dynamite reference.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I worked at what I would call a medium size plant, we processed 80-120k a day. There are a few minor crush hazards but honestly the biggest dangers would be accidents involving forklifts or trucks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

yes there are lots of sharp knifes and blades everywhere and fast moving conveyor belts.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago
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