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One mom said she cried for 10 days after hearing she was being removed from her daughter's birth certificate.

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[–] [email protected] 316 points 1 year ago (11 children)

you have to be sub-human trash to be ok with this

[–] [email protected] 162 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

right-wing political parties have ''be sub-human trash' written in their manifesto and yet people vote them into power.

From the article "Italy’s Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni, leader of the far-right Brothers of Italy party, made anti-LGBTQ+ rhetoric a cornerstone of her campaign for office. She opposes allowing same-sex couples to adopt as well as marriage quality, calling civil union “good enough” for LGBTQ+ couples."

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[–] [email protected] 135 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Disgusting comments from some pro-lifers on this thread. Throwing this child into an orphanage when they had a stable family already is the anti-thesis of pro family doctrine. It's hypocritical ultra right wing bigotry. All that remains of the right is their absolute hatred of the left. This really is the death of right wing majority governments. We saw their true colours during the January 6th capitol hill insurrection, during the BLM protests, during the Ukraine and Syria conflicts where Republicans teamed up with foreign enemy governments and during Obama's presidency.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

These are the kinds of people who go to a book club meeting every Sunday for a book that clearly non of them have ever read.

It's insane that ultra-right fascists (in Italy and America at least) always define themselves as "Christian."

Christ would flip tables on them and pull out his whip

[–] [email protected] 126 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's something I learned from reading too many books about WWII. It all started with the little things. What's that "first they came" quote again?

First they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the Socialists and I did not speak out because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You know what's ironic about that quote, especially in the context of this thread? The group who they really came for first was the LGBTQ, not the Communists. Even in the act of lamenting his failure to speak out, Niemöller failed to speak out about them.

Another related "fun" fact: the very first NAZI book burnings "included around 20,000 unique works on intersexuality, homosexuality, and transgender topics" from the Institute of Sex Research.

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[–] Ghyste 114 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (44 children)

It's maddening to watch all of the progress made around the world getting pushed back for no good reason aside from making a minority of the population uncomfortable—with their beliefs being based on lies and misinformation.

Edited to reword for clarity.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's the last desperate lashing out of the old beast.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

People have been saying the "last so and so" or the death roll, or the movement is dying out by attrition. I just wish I had your optimism. I mean I did, but as I grew (in 40s now), I noticed that the numbers don't matter when you have power and a plan. Just keep your opposition from organizing properly by controlling the message and manufacturing outrage for the supporters to talk about instead of actually problems. The media sells their story to make money and also distract from the real problems (their owners).

Did the average person hear about the Senate hearings during covid? The oil execs that stated their board of directors only care about making record breaking profits during the pandemc, instead of trying to alleviate the burden on the general population. They probably wanted a yacht for their yacht. Can't let a good opportunity to make money go to waste. It's actually against the CEOs fiduciary obligation to the board to not make as much money as possible. Even if they have to factor in payouts for a faulty product that kills someone the life cost doesn't matter, legal, the only obligation is fiduciary.

Sure we have the "numbers," but the numbers don't matter too much when the system is set up to be run by a smaller group of people that just have to keep others out and confuse the majority by making news harder to shift through.

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[–] [email protected] 98 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Italy: Women's role are to raise children.

Also Italy: No, not these women!

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[–] [email protected] 93 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I’m so sick of humanity.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

it’s not all of humanity doing this, it’s fascists. don’t use the rise of fascism to hate all of humanity, just fight it.

edit: “all of”

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

inhumanity is guaranteed when a right-wing political party forms the government.

From the article "Italy’s Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni, leader of the far-right Brothers of Italy party, made anti-LGBTQ+ rhetoric a cornerstone of her campaign for office. She opposes allowing same-sex couples to adopt as well as marriage quality, calling civil union “good enough” for LGBTQ+ couples."

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Italy forgetting all about their history of fascism.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Italian here, someone remember it too well, that's why we are in this awful situation

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Fucking fascists doing fascist things.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (5 children)

My daughter would loose her second mother though she has been there for her since birth and even before that.

My wife would not be allowed to sign a document for our daughter or visit her in the hospital when she is sick.

I absolutely don't know how the Italiens can accept such a move.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (7 children)

This sounds really bad and I'm afraid it's even worse than it sounds. For example, end of 2022 Italy introduced a law which bans certain types of harmless assemblies (rave parties) of more than 50 people (participants can be put to jail for up to 6 years). This is paving the road for cutting possibilities of people to protest against their government. (Imagine, there is a a protest and somebody plays music. The government will see a rave party.) Yet the Italian government seems to have no problem with 3000 neofascists visiting the hometown of Mussolini. And now this.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (8 children)

See this is what happens when you go to long without hanging all the fascists. Every 50 years or so you have to round them all up and find a gas station.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I am sure foster care and orphanages will teach these kids some good family values

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago

Facists announcing that they will oppress minorities when they're being voted into power.

Gets voted into power. Oppresses minorities.

People

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago

That is sick. Absolutely sick.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Under current Italian law, the member of a same-sex couple who is not legally recognized as a child’s parent could lose custody if the legally recognized parent dies or the relationship ends.

Shameful, hateful shit. What the hell Italy.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Even if they hate homosexual couples, doing this retroactively as a surprise brings this to a whole new level. Are there any ways for these people to reobtain their parental rights, like adoption?

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (6 children)

This and the recent 10 second groping rule has Handmaid's tale written all over it. Horrible and disgusting.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There is no good reason for this and this will cause a large amount of issues, let alone the pain it causes to the families affected by it.

This doesn’t seem purely populism for the anti-lgbtqia+ crowd, it seems too nuanced for that. I’m guessing it’s waiting until a high-placed official of the catholic church voices his support for Meloni during her next campaign.

EDIT: It already happend, she was endorsed by a Cardinal and several other members of the Italian church.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I still cannot understand why after all the child abuse revelations, why any endorsement by a church official is not met with an immediate "hell,no!".

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[–] thelsim 22 points 1 year ago

That’s terrible… She’s her daughter in every way.
And the thought of losing your child if something happens to your partner, it breaks my heart.

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