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Final Fantasy 17 needs "a younger generation" of lead developers, suggests FF16 producer (www.rockpapershotgun.com)

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[-] [email protected] 45 points 6 months ago

I have an idea lets make a game that embodied the spirit of the successful versions, lets stop trying to court devil may cry/elden ring fans and get back to making a turn based rpg or similar to ff10.

Ff3, ff7, ff9, ff10

Are great examples of the story lines I loved.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It doesn't have to be turn-based. FFXI and FFXII are also great. I feel the bigger issue is that making a story heavy game while everyone else is also making story heavy games makes it no longer unique.

I wouldn't mind going back to ATB, but I don't think that would win back an audience except for nostalgia points.

Maybe more FF:T though? Kinda miss that.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

I would love a modern FFT or even a paid mobile one with good mobile controls.

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

I enjoyed all of them and FFXVI too. I think it's okay to reinvent FF combat every iteration to keep it fresh. I'm not sure if I'd enjoy a turn based combat today like I enjoyed it 20 years ago.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

I was pretty happy to let FF innovate and leave DQ as the stable JRPG release and then they announced DQ12 would be more action focused

[-] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

4,6,7,10

I don't know. I know I played 9 in its entirety, but it is completely un-rememberable.

But yeah, 100% lets get back to the turn-based formula it was meant to be.
Bonus if we could go back to a 5-team instead of a 3-team

[-] otp 10 points 6 months ago

Vivi? Beatrix? Queen Brahne? Burmecia??

I found it to be one of the most memorable FFs.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

5, 8, 9, and 10 are the best of the earlier games and I will fight anyone who says otherwise.

And this is why there can be no such thing as an "ideal" FF game outside of perhaps re-remastering 10 again.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

9 is fucking amazing. Best cast of any of that generation.

10 was the beginning of the end.

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[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Only issue with 9 is it's slow

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Preach it 🙌

[-] rustydrd 2 points 6 months ago

Love this idea. The turn-based system in FFX was my absolute favorite, and I was really sad they didn't follow this direction further (even for FFX-II, like WTF).

[-] [email protected] 31 points 6 months ago

The Final Fantasy Franchise needs much more than just new developers.

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[-] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago

Square needs to hire good writers.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

What would you consider the last Final Fantasy game they made with good writing?

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

I wish they would stop with the weird hack&slash/ATB combat. Also, with PC ports they should use standard PC control scheme and menus. And i get it, PC is not big in Japan, but they are selling the games to western audiences.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

Any return to turn-based would probably have to be careful about it. Persona 5 managed it well, but it easily reaches criticism of being too much of "Use fire on ice". Ideally, every decision a player is making in their infinite-time turns should have some form and consequence to it. I have always hated the "solution" wherein you can turn on an Auto-Battling system. It fixes the problem, but doesn't acknowledge that the problem is battle decisions always being completely unnecessary and routine, which itself is something that can be fixed using more intelligent game design.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

They already nailed the turn based system with FFX imo

[-] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

fyi: SMT and Persona based their combat system on weak points way earlier than P5. I'm not saying it is immune to criticism, but it's a series standard by now

[-] Ookami38 3 points 6 months ago

I think they brought up p5 specifically because it's a super-modern turn based RPG, so the same kind of thing a new, turn based, ff would be. This modern game, despite being overall well received, got some criticism for its turn based system being too much of the "use obvious elemental weakness" style strategy, and not more novel ideas.

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[-] MrScottyTay 13 points 6 months ago

As a big fan of the old FFs I really enjoy the new ATB and hack and slash combat. 16 is fun and I think 7R is a great middle ground as well as being a true extension of the classic ATB stuff.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

People seem to forget that the ATB stuff started to come in at IV/V. I'm not sure I want the turned based mechanics and gameplay of games like FFII for the sake of misplaced nostalgia. Give me ATB any day over that.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I would love a return to turn based combat.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

It might be a good time to revisit some other long-running series that have managed a very good "reset" after running dry. Some examples that come to mind are Resident Evil 7, God of War, The Legend of Zelda, maybe some others.

At least for RE7 and God of War, it does feel like their overall goal was to reduce the action-packed scope, and focus more closely on something character-focused. RE7 doesn't have crashing helicopters, and God of War doesn't have you killing gods in the first 30 minutes. It definitely felt like an overall goal for FF16 was epic, bombastic scope and throwing around their budget, which obviously drove sales...but not as much lingering popularity as they hoped.

(Oh yeah, and plan a Steam release already. The world is not as console-obsessed as Japan)

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

Getting hard to exploit the veterans, eh?