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[–] [email protected] 148 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Everyone is mad about this but I still don't understand how RDR2 was even nominated for Labor of Love, let alone won.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Guessing short sighted algorithms. Because you can see on Valves side of things, packages have been updated/added/etc this year which probably allows it to be picked up.

https://steamdb.info/app/1174180/depots/

You can see here, the DLC was updated in 2023 https://steamdb.info/app/1190051/info/

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[–] ElBarto 142 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Technically the game does have innovative gameplay, no AAA studio has the balls to release a game as boring and lacking in gameplay that Bethesda has, they spent over a decade making fast travel the most integral gameplay mechanic.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Fast travel, plus inconsistency in whether or not you even get an "immersive" cutscene. Half the time you click into the menu and BOOM you're standing outside at some new location. About as much fun as fast traveling to another part of an Excel sheet.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The awards don't mean shit, there was nothing even close to innovative about Starfield. They took No Man's Sky, made it worse, and shoved their 15 year old npc behavior in it.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fan votes have been and will always be popularity contests.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I am in a mad bubble then because I have never heard anything good about Starfield, or even seen for that matter. Besides maybe Joel Haver's starfield videos on youtube and those are parodies.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It almost seems tongue in cheek, especially with rddr2 winning the labor of love.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That or these big companies have an army of steam accounts for this. Thats not completely out of the question.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

It's worse than that because Steam essentially pay you to vote (by giving you a card or something you can sell) so people are incentivised to just pick a random game or the only game they've heard of.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait, do they know what the word innovative means?

Wait, do they know what the word gameplay means?

Wait, do they know what the word most means?

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It was community chosen. So a lot of people trolled. There's a random dating sim in the"Outstanding story" finalists

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2322560/Love_Is_All_Around

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Ah, thanks for clarifying, or explaining how it actually happened. 👍

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

2006: Make oblivion

2007-2022: Recycle gameplay for other IPs

2023: Make oblivion in space

Truly innovative

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'd play the hell out of it if it's Oblivion in space

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

That would be good.

This is TES online in Space, with half of the features replaced by loading screens.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

2023: Make oblivion in space

I fucking wish. I'm a huge, bitter whiner about Starfield and I would've loved it if it'd kept quality as high as Oblivion was (for its time, don't laugh)

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I have no side to take, but it's sorta hilarious seeing people saying the award mean nothing when it's starfield that win it, and on the other hand congratulate Baldur's Gate for winning another GOTY. Truly the Schrodinger Award.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Games you liked winning awards is something to celebrate. Games you don't like winning awards is proof that awards are a joke and should be ignored. Just how things work.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (5 children)

To be fair, "game of the year" feels like it's meant to measure popularity, while "most innovative" sounds like it shouls measure how innovative a game is, which is perhaps why the two awards get such different reactions.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's like the points are made up and don't mean anything

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

"Everything is made up and the points don't matter."

[–] DadVolante 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sounds like someone never won an award

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

seeing as we are the ones voting I don't think it reflects steam as a platform - just gamers

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That‘s a user-vote, no? I can‘t say I‘m surprised that there‘s some headscratchers, I doubt the average user knows what innovative gameplay is supposed to be. They should let people vote as they did, then curate the top 20 of each category into 10 fitting games so those that don‘t match the award category are out, and then let people put their final vote between those 10.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That‘s a user-vote, no? I can‘t say I‘m surprised that there‘s some headscratchers, I doubt the average user knows what innovative gameplay is supposed to be.

Valve incentivized its users to vote in all categories.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not only incentivized it, but put certain games at the front of all of the categories. I don't know if those games were already voted on by other players, or paid for ads by the companies themselves, but I know that I was presented with games that I didn't feel fit into the category they were in. Personally, though, I really don't give a shit about awards. I can't think of any, aside from some book awards, that aren't bought and paid for popularity contest.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

Steam has nothing to do with this, people voted like that.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's for the lock pick mini game.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Winning this award has done so much more damage to Bethesda than I'm sure they could ever have expected.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

It's completely fan driven so if thats the result, then fans trolled themselves

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Even if it weren't for all of the problems the game has it's hardly innovative. I don't think a Bethesda game has been innovative ever. They didn't even invent the fallout franchise.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Fallout 3: Find your dad!

Fallout New Vegas: Your quest for revenge will lead you right into the middle of a political struggle which will decide whether this post-apocalypse society will fall to fascism, a corrupt republic that's two bad elections away from fascism, a technofascist, your rule, etc.

Fallout 4: Find your son!

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

i couldn't even get through the tutorial, space skinned skyrim is a about as innovating as a subscription model for a new app.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It was indeed quite innovative. Was the first game I ever installed on my HDD that refused to run at any acceptable level, ~~without any warning anywhere that it needed to be on SSD or not at all~~.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That was Alan Wake 2 for me, except they innovated one step further. I had to reinstall it on my NVME drive because my SATA SSD apparently wasn't fast enough.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's in the system requirements but even games that list an SSD as required there still sometimes work fine on a hard disk.

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