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[–] [email protected] 108 points 7 months ago (6 children)

"Before, I used to buy eggs for 70 rubles ($0.78) a dozen. Now they cost between 130 and 140 rubles ($1.45 to $1.56)—twice as much," Ilia Zaroubine, a 21-year-old student, said.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

And here in Quebec we are paying ~~6CAD(4.50)usd for a dozen...~~ While not being embroiled in a war of our own design.

Correction: The 6CAD was for 18. That is what I get for checking grocery websites before coffee - It is more like 4CAD per dozen.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Americans and everyone else constantly complaining about food prices. Meanwhile us in Canada being fucked by the same three companies and a government who (regardless of party) hasn't shown they give a flying fuck on lowering anything.

Even when Americans had the big egg shortage last year it was coming up to the average prices of eggs round me.

Utter bullshit. Half the time I'm too broke to afford food.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Is there a difference between regulations regarding eggs between the US and Canada? Eggs in the US are dirt cheap because almost nothing surrounding poultry is regulated. I'm happy to pay the premium in Germany for minimum living conditions, antibiotics restrictions, no culled male chicks, etc. but I also realize that not everyone here is as fortunate.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

It varies by state. If you're selling into certain states, your chickens must have at least a certain standard of living. Unfortunately, eggs probably aren't often shipped across state lines, in which case it doesn't mean anything for farmers in other states and they can still abuse their chickens. https://cagefreelaws.com/

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

In the current economic system, widespread lowering of prices is considered to be harmful. So it’s not really possible without major economic reforms. Best solution is to increase wages/income to offset higher prices.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

boo-hoo. Profits are not guaranteed.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

But average Canadian makes more money than average Russian, therefore Canadian farmer will ask for more money to afford his shopping or farm expenses than Russian farmer would.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 7 months ago (3 children)

So fucking cheap! It's about 3+ SEK per egg in Sweden where I live.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 7 months ago (2 children)

True, but the average income / buying power has to be factored in too, right? Caveman googling gives the average Russian's income to be $14k USD / year whereas Swedes are at $47k USD / year. Assuming more caveman math, that'd be like paying $5.23/dozen in Rubles compared to $3.60/dozen in SEK.

Of course you can't just do these sort of comparisons exactly, because money's always more complicated than that, but I think it gives a better context.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Get the median, not the average income, to have a good comparison. The wealth gap in Russia is pretty big.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

Doesn't look too much different. $13.5k median/year according to the that article.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Here in colombia eggs cost ~$3 for a dozen.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Do like I did and move out to the countryside, buy a vastly cheaper house with some land, work in IT so you can work remotely most days and get some hens. Spend far less on their feed than I did on eggs and I find home range eggs to be a very appreciated going away gift these days.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I do work in IT (software engineer) but I don't eat eggs so much that I need to buy a damn countryside farm because my egg consumption is ruining me here in the city lmao. I'll eat cheaper things/eggs only sometimes. It's not the most expensive food here, in the least. 😄

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The eggs is of course just a side benefit, the big thing is a house that is literally 1/10th the cost per square meter of living space.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Weeell we all have our priorities. I like to be close to friends and family and things to do like team sports, and live close to the sea. Close to a grocery store, close to daycare and schools etc.

I don't think I could live in the country. I wish I could. It's very nice to be out in nature, where it gets dark, and quiet. How I love the quietness of the countryside.

I just hate driving far to everywhere I need to go. I want to get places quickly. Too little time to be alive to be driving for hours every week. I can't.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's crazy.

Those are still just a little bit cheaper than a dozen eggs at Walmart.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

It doesn't work that way. Eggs are not imported from the West and Western prices don't apply on domestic produce. Russian earnings are nowhere near the Western ones on average.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 7 months ago (6 children)

In a rare apology from the Russian president, Putin said during his end-of-year press conference that insufficient imports and demand are to blame for the hiked prices.

"I'm sorry about this problem. This is a setback in the government's work," Putin said on December 14. "I promise that the situation will be corrected in the near future."

Holy shit. Russians are serious about their eggs!

Look, it isn't hard to substitute eggs in recipes. You can use applesauce, banana, chia seeds, flax seeds, or tofu. (To be fair, though, I don't know what those cost in Russia as compared to eggs.)

[–] [email protected] 69 points 7 months ago (4 children)

He apologized about eggs?

What the absolute ever loving fuck? Sending hundreds of thousands of his own people to a meat grinder he can stop right now, but eggs he can apologize for?

Where's the strongman?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's something that affects average Russian people.

Don't you remember when Americans were bitching about the price of eggs a few years ago? Basic ingredients are like gas. People notice when they go up in price.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

It was a single year ago that they went crazy. But this has been a weird time to keep track of time

[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Might be the only thing Putin fears is revolution. I would think the risk of that increases in response to food scarcity being more common.

Or it's just a worthless apology.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

In that case, it's sad that he doesn't think the Russian people would revolt over sending hundreds of thousands of them to die in a pointless war.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

He just has to select the right people to send to stay in power

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

No, but sending hundreds of thousands of able and almost able bodied poor men to die is a good way to prevent violent revolution

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Blood is an excellent substitution as well

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

Eggs are also generally a very economical source of protein, usually.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

The day I have to eat poached applesauce is also the day I overthrow my government.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

Pickled applesauce just doesn't go as well with water glasses of vodka.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You can't invade neighboring countries on a vegan diet

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Well, not with that attitude.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"Before, I used to buy eggs for 70 rubles ($0.78) a dozen. Now they cost between 130 and 140 rubles ($1.45 to $1.56)—twice as much," Ilia Zaroubine, a 21-year-old student, said.

I realize that it's probably a greater percentage of total wages, but by US standards, that's still dirt cheap.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Most American citizens, despite some struggles we face, still make twice as much or more than the average Russian.

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[–] NobodyElse 30 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (3 children)

It's not metric, but there's another logic to it.

Those cartons are available for 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 15, 18, 20 eggs.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Thanks to shrinkflation we will start seeing that in America at some point.

[–] prettybunnys 6 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I can buy eggs in the following sizes at my grocery store:

4, 6, 12, 18, 24, 32

In the USA.

Since before the pandemic.

I have no idea what the 4 pack is for but it’s a silly looking container.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I've seen four eggs but they were duck eggs.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago

Bliat Inside the egg is another but smaller egg!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Russia's egg crisis spiraled out of control this week after an attempt was made on the life of the head of a poultry farm in the Voronezh region, with prices for the staple food item continuing to climb.

Gennady Shiryaev, the 59-year-old head of the Tretyakov Poultry Farm, the largest in the western Voronezh region, was driving home when an unknown person fired two shots at his car.

Russia has seen an unprecedented surge in egg prices this year against a backdrop of high inflation and sanctions imposed by the West in response to President Vladimir Putin's full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

A day before it happened, Russia's Federal Anti-Monopoly Service initiated a case against Shiryaev's poultry farm—and three other local producers—for sharply increasing egg prices in October.

In a rare apology from the Russian president, Putin said during his end-of-year press conference that insufficient imports and demand are to blame for the hiked prices.

Muscovites told news agency AFP in an article published on December 12 that they have experienced even steeper price increases than what has been reported by Rosstat.


The original article contains 493 words, the summary contains 181 words. Saved 63%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!

[–] wowbyowen 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They have to pay high prices in order to afford eggs for breakfast.

Meanwhile, Ukrainian parents would pay any price if they could have their dead kids back.

It’s impossible for me to feel sympathy for whatever happens to Russians.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

I expect there's plenty of Russian parents that feel the same.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

Here I am paying almost $9 a dozen for cruelty free eggs.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

I'm completely against Russia's invasion of Ukraine, and their anti LGBT policies, among other policies. but I recall America having an egg price spike in 2022. Each countries price spike may have been caused by different reasons, but I believe Putin when he says this will be temporary and the government will work on fixing this.

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