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But even as Trump’s campaign has been blaming outside groups and allies for bad headlines, Trump himself has been vowing “retribution” against his enemies and ramping up his use of violent and authoritarian rhetoric, including saying he would only be a dictator on “day one” of his second term. He has also pledged to appoint a special prosecutor to go after President Joe Biden and has outlined an immigration agenda that includes militarizing the southern border and mass deportations.

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[–] [email protected] 96 points 11 months ago (4 children)

HE LED AN INSURRECTION! How the hell are we falling for it a second time?

[–] Zeppo 89 points 11 months ago

"We're" not falling for anything. The people supporting him now approve of what he did.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Because WAY too many brainwashed, uneducated, cult members have literally plugged their ears and gone "LALALALALA" if anything that doesn't support their world-view hits their "news" feed. And I use the term "news" lightly as it's a lot of just garbage memes on social media or propoganda "news" networks like NewsMax and OAN are their sources of information.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

We all know the type of bottom-of-barrel dredge that fills his rallies: alcoholic deadbeats, meth heads, pridefully illiterate let alone uneducated. Racists, bigots.. Someone who ate one too many lead paint chips or sniffed that leaded gasoline.

Interestingly, studies by neuroscientists see remarkable distinguishing factors between liberals and conservstives. Conservatives have a larger amygdala, having a heightened sensitivity to disgust. They have a smaller cingulate cortex compared to liberals, reducing pattern recognition and maybe more importantly pattern dissonance.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You can watch video after video from those rallies and the ignorance of their attendees never fails to terrify.

In the linked video some older guy speaks about how Biden was replaced by a body double by the still sitting president 45 and he's secretly preparing the military to intervene next election. Another one thinks Biden will be executed on Trumps coming inauguration.

One attendee is confronted with Trumps ramblings on Truth Social about how he wants to terminate all rules, regulations and articles, even in the constitution and the guy is seriously baffled and promised to look into that. Hard to believe he was honest, considering everyone saw what happened on january the 6th 2021.

I recommend everyone to watch some of the work of Walter Masterson and Luke Beasly.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Interestingly, studies by neuroscientists see remarkable distinguishing factors between liberals and conservstives.

Do you have a source for that? I would like to read about it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

https://amarkfoundation.org/reports/how-are-the-brains-of-liberals-and-conservatives-different/

Edit:

@WoahWoah points this out from the article, which I missed.

“Editor’s note: In 2020, researchers from universities in the Netherlands and the United States replicated Oxley’s and his team’s study and concluded that: “Our analyses do not support the conclusions of the original study, nor do we find evidence for broader claims regarding the effect of disgust and the existence of a physiological trait.”

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

"Editor’s note: In 2020, researchers from universities in the Netherlands and the United States replicated Oxley’s and his team’s study and concluded that: “Our analyses do not support the conclusions of the original study, nor do we find evidence for broader claims regarding the effect of disgust and the existence of a physiological trait."

Nice of them to bury this editor's note 4/5ths of the way into the article lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I apologize for missing that! I got really excited when I found that article because it seemed to cover it all so succinctly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They're basically just saying they didn't find the same results and that using exclusively physiological responses to indicate "real" feelings is a dubious assumption. They're essentially calling for better studies that also involve reported cognition and sentiment ("conscious" responses).

That seems reasonable. It's weird that the article buried that so far into the summary though!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Understood, and I appreciate the clarification, but it does damage, or at least work against, the credibility of most of the body of the article, so I would likely not have used it if I'd noticed that as I went through.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Why would it damage most of the article? That was only a clarification on one study or subpoint.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I wish I could see their full study — Paywalls hiding publicly-funded research... I just love it.

The next sentence further says, "Rather than studying unconscious responses as the ‘real’ predispositions, alignment between conscious and unconscious responses promise deeper insights in the emotional roots of ideology."

I'd need to see the study but it might suggest that there is indeed a subconscious difference in response but how that's mediated by other parts of the brain either remains the same or differs?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

The people supporting him can’t spell history much less understand it.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

I really don’t get why people that old or supposedly rich don’t just fucking vanish and go live a real good final bit of life. Like I’d fucking love waking up every day in a beach mansion never worrying about people screaming at me or putting me in jail.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 11 months ago

You're not addicted to power.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

In this case, he's doing it to keep himself out of prison.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

You don't get rich being an introvert who keeps out of trouble.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

It's not as good of a life as he tries to make it seem

[–] atzanteol 35 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There is no "only" when it comes to a dictatorship.

Can we start listening to what this asshole is saying already??? He's not joking!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

It's not a joke only if he got elected.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

And they [Trump aides] say his current campaign operation has been often described as his most serious and professional to date.

That seems like a pretty low bar.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

He intends on running without a platform like last time.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (5 children)

It is absolutely embarrassing that the democrats can’t put forward a candidate that can beat this guy in the polls.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Pretty sure Biden beat him in an actual election by 7 million votes. Are you really putting more weight into “polls” than actual results?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Polls a year out are meaningless. IIRC, Obama was "losing" at this point during his re-election as well. Democrats have been beating polls by 9+ points at the ballot box since Roe v. Wade was overturned.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

That would have happened in 2016 if the DNC had played straight instead of fucking around.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

his supporters aren't interested in a candidate.. they attacked the fucking Capitol, they aren't even citizens of this country anymore..

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Interesting that those polls never include spoiler candidate RFK, Jr. who is polling in the (very low) double digits and mostly attracting Republicans.

I don't want that crazy fucker to win, but it's interesting to me that pollsters always leave him out when it sounds like he could seriously swing the election in Biden's favor, isn't it?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

You'll never get the #fascist stink off you Donnie.