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[–] [email protected] 145 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Trucks are getting so stupid. The brands are smart though, they really know how to to make the most of men insecurities.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

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The title is inflammatory, yes, but it’s a great video that drives home the point of masculine insecurity and a “dominance of nature” spurs a lot of the “masculine” stereotype behind trucks and SUVs.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (4 children)

The one comment the bot hasn't answered

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[–] [email protected] 93 points 11 months ago (1 children)

One is a truck made for actual work and the other is an abomination pretending to be a truck.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The second is basically a minivan, but the 3rd row is a truck bed.

My truck is kinda similar, but they just took a smaller suv and added a bed.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago (2 children)

So why not just use the van? At least the cargo space is covered from the elements. Most people who drove these yank tanks don't actually need the truck part.

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[–] [email protected] 84 points 11 months ago (6 children)

But only one can crush a toddler without you even feeling it.

Buy the new Ford Infanticide 5000. You're American. You deserve it.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 11 months ago (4 children)

This person might be a little confused as those beds are definitely not the same length. They might be consuming the mid-size truck 4.5ft bed as the length of that Silverado. I’m being generous to that smaller truck if it has a 4.5ft bed, but the Silverado has a 5.5ft bed standard and also has a wider bed. Specifically greater than 4ft between wheel wells making transporting of standard sized plywood and drywall super easy. Carrying 6 people too is also something that smaller truck isn’t doing, nor is a high towing capacity like 15k pounds. Does the average America need that? Most likely not, but to claim they’re the same is disingenuous.

You can tell the about size by the tire. Considering a standard 5.5ft American truck bed could easily accommodate 4 tires laying down flat and still have plenty of left over space both width and length while this truck seems to struggle with one. Again, 4 tires could fit in the small one standing up, but this comparison is apples to oranges. Both fruits, but different categories.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago (16 children)

Kei trucks can put the sides of the bed down, leaving a completely flat cargo surface. Depending on the model, the bed is 4-6ft long and 3.5-4.5ft wide with the sides up.

Part of the point is that a kei truck can do a good chunk of small utility trips without being gigantic or bad on gas.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Edit: revised guess Judging by the design of the driver door, I'm guessing this is a 92/94's Honda Acty, which has a bed length of 6.3ft

https://davidsclassiccars.com/honda/498957-03994-honda-kei-mini-truck-rare-color-rust-free-5-speed-no-reserve-auction.html

According to wikipedia, that length is normal: "They generally have 1.8 m (6 ft) pickup beds with fold-down sides; dump and scissor-lift beds are also available, as are van bodies. The length limitation forces all of these models into a cab-forward design."

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Kei trucks have a 6.5'x4.5' bed. I own one, and they are awesome.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Also, one of these actually needs and uses the bed, the other one doesn't.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago (7 children)

When my little 4-cylinder truck wore out in 2021, I looked so hard for one of the little kei trucks. But all of the ones I could find were $20k, or they were $15k and needed a lot of work to be driveable. And none of them were within 200 miles of my location.

I ended up with a used base-model F150 which only cost me $12k. It had 81k miles on it. As near as I can figure out, it started life as a rental truck for a hardware store called "Menards". It has an 8ft bed, no carpet, no power locks, no power windows, no back seat, no touchscreen, and no color LCD screen in the gauge cluster. I use this truck for a small farm that my wife and I run, so it doesn't get driven every day.

Im still looking for a kei truck, though.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 11 months ago (16 children)

Towing capacity, payload weight, carrying 3 more people, bed width, drivetrain? I think many trucks are way too big, and it's silly to own a big work truck if you just use it to go to the grocery store but it's really about so much more than bed size.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Let's be honest, most people with trucks that large rarely have passengers, rarely even approach the payload for the bed, and they never tow anything.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Yeah it's about

BIG TRUCK MAKE ME FEEL LIKE MAN. MAKE ME FEEL LIKE BIG BOY. LOOK ME DRIVE BIG VEHICLE SO YOU KNOW I'M IMPORTANT.

LOOK AT ME!!!

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

carrying 3 more people

As a payload.

I'm not sure if you can fill it to load capacity even with lead bricks.

Or if you want to carry people, you can use this: . For carrying not people you can remove seats. It's even roughly same size.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Yes but one is for work while the other is a compensation device

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago

But since the kei truck cannot travel over 55 mph, that makes it more dangerous!

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago (10 children)

Yeah, but which one will make women think my penis is huge?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Car manufacturers can make more money per vehicle on large trucks. So I'm curious what influence their lobiests had on this.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago

No clue why people buy kei cars from Japan when they can pick up the left hand drive version of the kei cars from Taiwan.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I see one truck and one blue minivan with a covered cargo area.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (14 children)

I really like my 2003 Ford ranger. It's small, but can still haul enough that it works perfectly fine for when I'm picking up dirt for my garden. But also it's definitely not fuel efficient in the way that I'd want it to be. I wish they made something that size but newer.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (29 children)

If I want to get a small truck or something similar what can you recommend that's available in North America? (Serious)

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