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[–] [email protected] 163 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

While the general message of this meme is true, almost none of the internet actually goes through satellites. There are huge cables all around the world connecting the whole thing. And while launching rockets and deploying satellites is really cool, I think ocean crossing cables are impressive all on their own. Imagine a cable not only long and strong enough to cross an ocean, but also resting on the ocean floor, exposed to the environment and expected to work for decades. And to think the first of these cables was deployed back in 1858.

[–] [email protected] 80 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Billy lives out in Bumfuck, Idaho and thus needs Starlink.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 8 months ago (7 children)

We have high speed Internet here in bumfuck... But yes, statistically Billy is likely a dumbfuck if he lives here.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You might be bumfuck-nowhere-adjacent. But if you have DSL, fiber, or cable, you are not in bumfuck nowhere.

-Sent through my solar powered starlink connection from actual bumfuck nowhere. Where power lines don't even exist.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

i'm in the outskirts of bumfuck. there's areas here with maximum dsl speeds under 1 mbit/sec. which the telco naturally sells at a higher price than the 40-60 mbit dsl in other parts of town because it's the only wireline service available in those neighborhoods (cable's ridiculously-priced service is their only competitor otherwise, but they don't cover every part of town)

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Relevant Map Men:

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Good bot.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Does Lemmy have a bot voting bot? Just curious.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

The cables are flat!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I guess the point still stands, I'm sure you need to account for the circumference of the earth when laying those cables

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 8 months ago

Fun Fact!: If you think the earth is flat, your brain is flat.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I specifically remember being told that the internet would make people smarter.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It does, having all the humanity knowledge in your pocket is amazing and you can learn a lot which people do use to learn and get smarter. Sadly not everyone uses it that way and some just refuse to learn but that's just loud minority (I hope).

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I would argue that it’s contributed to the collective stupidity of humanity on a global scale. It’s had a lot of positive impacts as well, of course. I guess the negative ones just seem more palpable.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Maybe the internet has shown us people that were already dumb but we just didn't have a way of knowing they exist?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

It gave them the means to find each other and also gave them a sort of megaphone to shout and spread their stupidity.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

And then they voted, and turns out it was like half of the voting population.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but now stupid people can easily collaborate with other stupid people, amplifying the echo-chamber-circle-jerk on a global, nearly instantaneous level. Furthering the stupid at a never before seen rate.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Used to be every village had their idiot. Now every idiot has their village.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Has it, though? I grew up in the 80s, and I feel like I simply didn't have a clue how ignorant people were or what batshit things people believed behind closed doors. Even when people disclosed to me their inner narrative, I feel like I just assumed they were joking or using extreme hyperbole.

The internet has made me realize ... they weren't joking. At all. They really believe that shit.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

I'm approximately your age. I assumed the same thing. Hell, I thought crazy conspiracy theories were just people pretending "What if..." together.

In my younger days I would have been on a lot of bandwagons just to joke about the people who "didn't get the joke". It turns out I was the one that didn't get it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

I would look at it from a different angle. Before the internet you had to have a lot of knowledge in different areas to be able to sound and behave smart, and also to make good choices.

Now you have knowledge readily available everywhere and there is much less incentive to learn things you don’t currently need, just to have it available in case you talk to someone about this topic.

This has become even more evident with AI, where you don’t have to skim through a lot of context to find your information, you just ask what you need and it is presented the way you need it right away.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

Internet can make people smarter, if they actually want to get smarter.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

I think I'm general it has, but it also makes the dumb ones very loud.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

It’s the Disinformation Superhighway

[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago (2 children)

internet is mostly below or at ground level. we have underwater cables for international internet.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

I thought it was implying he was in some hard to reach location, and they were pulling the stops out to connect the last guy on earth without internet.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago (5 children)

I honestly don't understand how people can think the Earth is flat in 2023. You can see it for yourself. Go to the coast of a sufficiently large body of water, and try holding a ruler up to the horizon.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

I think at this point, it's more a lifestyle and less a theoretical argument.

Yes, a flat earth doesn't stand up against science. But also, for most people it doesn't make a difference in their day-to-day life. So they have little to no incentive to ever tackle that notion.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Clearly it's just big water mountains

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

They alter all rulers to hide the flat earth!!!!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

It not flat! It's concave! Flippin sheeple. Do your research!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

I wish I had thought of this when I was growing up on the coast. How long would the ruler need to be to see the effect?

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Does gravity work the same on a disc, or is that just another piece of evidence they ignore?

[–] Evilsmiley 28 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I've seen them say that things fall "because of density".

Like we fall down because we are heavier than air.

Like they think they've avoided the problem but they haven't.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I mean obviously we fall down, because down is where the things fall to. /s

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Wake up sheeple! Gravity is an obvious lie from the NWO illuminati lizard people! We're actually all implanted with small steel sheets in our feet at birth, and everything on the planet has a small amount of iron filings in too. The flat disc we live on is completely magnetic. That's how we don't fall off.

I thought everyone knew this!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

I remember a guy arguing that flat Earth is constantly accelerated upwards on God's will, and never reaches speed of light due to Einstein relativism. Was quite fun to listen to this unusual fusion

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think some of them reckon the disc is moving "forward" at speed .

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That "forward" would be upwards? In does that people acknowledge relativity, but won't accept geometry or gravitation?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

If you look into it, you'll realise the underlying theory quite obviously came to be when someone very smart tried to figure out how could a flat earth work without throwing all physics out of the window. It's actually pretty neat. There are obviously details that can be tested for and the model disproven, but it does account for a lot. IIRC the basis is that the flat Earth is constantly accelerating at 1g, which provides gravity. Per theory of relativity you can accelerate at a constant rate for an arbitrary length of time, so that works. I think stuff such as phases of the Moon etc are also accounted for, though I don't remember the details of that.

Really, people get too caught up in finding holes in the model when the most obvious flaw is that the whole thing requires tens of thousand people at least all knowingly covering this up without getting anything out of it. But if you look at it as a thought experiment, not an attempt to describe the reality, you'll find that it's really pretty cool. Or, it was cool, before idiots started to actually believe it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If the disk had the thickness of Earth's diameter and through some black magic fuckery made it so that only the mass directly below you affected the force of gravity on you, then yes.

It's probably easier to make an FTL engine than to make any sense of flat earth theories.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There's probably some distribution of mass that would result in uniform gravity across the whole disk. I'm guessing there would need to be more mass near the edge to counteract the diagonal pull of the mass near the center on the area near the edge.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The problem is that in a flat plane with any amount of thickness, there will be always more mass diagonally than vertically, and it would still require a curve to evenly distribute the mass. I am by no means an expert on the matter, but from what I can recall, the only geometrical shape that allows for it is either a sphere or some complex hyperbolic curve, which is still not a plane.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Internet is made of tubes!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Now do the irony of the Allies and Neo-Nazis.

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