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[–] [email protected] 54 points 8 months ago (3 children)

The fact that HP didn't even say anything makes it look less like profiteering and more like spite. Idiots. I'm actually in the market for a printer and from what I can tell, in order to get something that won't stiff me in some way I have to get one which is really old. And not made by HP.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 8 months ago (4 children)

You just want a Brother laser jet black and white printer

It's no bullshit and will work forever

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

I'm with the others recommending Brother. They aren't perfect, but they're the least bad.

Running about a 10 year old MFC 9349 CDW here, only changed the black toner so far. Used a cartridge reset truck I found on YouTube to get more life out of the original black before that.

Scans to network nicely, does 2 sided prints etc.

Go for a Brother.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

I've owned a HL-3070cw for a decade (I think, close to if not) - I've changed the toner carts 4 times, it's printed high res color daily for pennies. Shit just works, and quality isn't bad at all. Works from any device on the network - phones tablets desktops laptops - practically zero network admin/setup, it just fucking works for everyone. Cannot recommend enough.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

2070N here! It came out in 2005. Brother still sells it because why not?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Which is fine until Grandma wants to print out all the selfies and other photos our Grand kids send her. Then, that black and white anything won't cut it. And I can't afford a photo quality laser printer..........

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (2 children)

There's online and supermarket printing services for that. Usually works out cheaper than maintaining a printer.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Yep and there are also fairly cheap strictly photo printers (cheap compared to getting film developed, at least)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

There nearest grocery store that might offer that kind of service would be at least a 200 mile round trip. And while we are old enough to remember sending real film to film labs for developing and then waiting weeks to get something back, she's not very interested in doing so anymore. To her the cost is not worth the inconvenience of waiting anymore.

And frankly, some arguments are not worth having. In marriage, you need to pick your fights.

[–] Patches 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Jesus, just get her a Digit Photo Frame. Frameo is incredibly easy and it lets you add them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

She has multiple digital frames. But she still wants to print some out. Grandma's will Grandma.......

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I've been around in IT long enough... The emails went to someone who has left or someone set auto delete "on these annoying spam emails!".

Not to make it right or better, hp sucks donkey balls, but I don't believe the would've been zero contact. If you buy a subscription printer and stop paying for a subscription... That's on you.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Subscription printer. Why the fuck is that even a thing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Because if you make everything this level of shit and you sell someone "printer that always works at £6 a month!" It sounds like a great deal.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Apparently Brother, and some Lexmark, printers don't come with this BS DRM baked into the firmware.

Has anyone cracked the HP firmware to give us proper access to our hardware?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Thanks to DMCA, circumventing this protection and sharing it with people is illegal.

Honestly hasn’t stopped people in the past but I suspect it hasn’t been cracked because of how it connects to an external server to verify. Probably need to patch the firmware entirely

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Thanks to DMCA, circumventing this protection and sharing it with people is illegal.

🏴‍☠️ Which means hypothetically it would need to be done anonymously. 🏴‍☠️