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Around 80% of Americans have been exposed to the plant pesticide chlormequat, which causes fertility and growth issues in animals, according to a new study published Thursday...

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I wouldn't expect this from Quaker.

Kellogg's seems more like the one who would put infertility inducing chemicals in their food.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It’s probably most oat products in North America. The US banned this substance on domestic crops, but Canada still allows it, and Canada is the oat capital of North America.

Moreover, US residents get exposed because importing oats grown this way is still okay. It’s only banned domestically.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

The Quakers nearly died out because they disapproved of even sex for procreation.

Tbh it's a real shame they have this weird hang up about the idea because they're otherwise the best kind of Christians.

Takes they've been historically based af about:

Anti-monarchists Abolitionists Public education Prison Reform Pacifism (personally don't agree but we'd certainly be in a better place if more people did)

Etc etc etc, literally, find an issue about something and they're probably on the right side of it.

(Unless their names are Hoover and Nixon)

[–] twice_twotimes 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I thought it was the Shakers who were fully celibate, not the Quakers. I’m reading through the Quakers’ wiki page now and not seeing anything about views on sex/procreation. Any suggestions where to find more about that?

I’m not trying to challenge you, I’d just like to learn more if I’ve missed something here.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Shakers went full celibacy, Quakers have loosened views over time, but traditional marriages were noted to often include long periods of abstinence, and marriages were (supposed) to be more about companionship and friendship than romance and sexuality.

A professor of mine once noted the long periods of abstinence might simply have been a result of women with their notably greater autonomy having more choice in the matter compared to the standards of their times than any particularly repressive view on sexuality (within the bounds of marriage) but whatever the case, Quakers just didn't have as many kids as other sects.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

I wish violence didn't solve everything, the world would be a much easier place to live in. But brutes only speak the language of violence.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's weird since the Bible straight up tells you to fuck to make babies.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Maybe less weird once you remember it also talks up everything else they were against, like slavery and heirarchies. They seem, on the whole, to value the words of Christ as depicted by the Bible much more than the ramblings of people claiming to be Peter or the random rules of desert tribesmen.