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[–] UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I haven't found that to be the case, but maybe my groupthink is stronger than I thought.

I will admit I creeped your comments a bit, but you seem pretty progressive to be. What sort of toxic reactions are you talking about?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My last comment got downvoted for saying I have never watched Fox news 🀷🏾.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

feels like an upvote worthy comment to me.

Maybe people felt if you're on the internet it's almost impossible not to have seen SOME news clips from them.

I mean I hate fox and I actively avoid them. but they've definitely floated in front of my eyes plenty of times inadvertently.

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[–] UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fox channel was the Simpsons channel growing up, so I caught some of it invariably. I could believe a young person might not have seen it, though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fox the broadcast TV channel is different from Fox News the cable channel. Broadcast TV is operated by one of ~100 local affiliates and shows the Simpsons and local news. Fox News Channel is the Murdoch personal project to produce 24-hour conservative propaganda to shift the national discourse. Or at least it was this way 20 years ago, haven't seen what the TV branding looks like nowadays.

[–] UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the breakdown. I didn't know that

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

They don’t even operate outside of North America.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'm on the internet a lot and I've heard of Fox News over and over, but I'm not sure I've actually seen anything from it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

A bit delayed, but you posted in fuck cars, about why car disincentive schemes are a cash grab. It wasn't about Fox news.

I mean, I don't disagree with you that if you don't use the proceeds to help the planet or infrastructure improvements for non-car users, it is just a cash grab, but you probably needs to be aware what community you're on, and what the consensus view is. Saying that 4chan is for right wing racist kids on green text is going to get you swimming in downvotes. It doesn't mean anything bad about you, or your view, it just means you probably weren't fully aware of the context and probably are a little bit sensitive about downvotes. Karma does not matter here, and disagreements and downvotes mean people care about what you say, even if it's in a disagreeable way.

I don't agree with your take, but I appreciate you being here. :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Oh I was well aware what community I was in 😁. I hate cars and exclusively ride bikes myself and here I was making a joke how I managed to get !fuck_cars of all places to downvote me for not watching fox news. All because my groupthink is not exactly identical to their groupthink (I am not the grandparent comment btw).

The secret is that karma does not matter anywhere! However, as long as the comment sorting algorithm is the way it is, I will keep believing that the downvote button is for posts that are non-constructive contributions, not for disagreement. Burying discussion is not constructive, but that's what the algorithm will do. Maybe this is a hopeless task, but I wish that after a conversation I have learned something new, or taught someone something, not just made myself feel better.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just don't say centrist too loudly and you'll be ok I guess.

I'm left leaning center these days.

[–] UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT 1 points 1 year ago

Unless you mean something totally different than the popular interpretation (ie meaning) of the term, then "centrist" is a very politically charged position to take when virtually everyone, whether left or right leaning, at least agrees that things aren't great right now