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It was fun to cheer on Ukraine against Russia because fuck Russia and Ukraine was just trying to do it's thing without getting invaded. But Israel-Palestine is just sad, and if anything, the military power of the West is not being used in the right way for this one.
The whole area has been powder keg for decades. I don't really know what sending military forces in will do.
Israel has 170,000 active and 465,000 reserves. I'm seeing reports of them mobilizing 300,000 so that's roughly half of their total forces. The Ford carrier strike group moving in is meant to deter anyone else (Hezbollah) from taking advantage of the situation and opening a second front while half the Israeli forces are occupied elsewhere.
Legit question: if Israel shouldn’t be doing what they are doing, what is the alternative that enhances their security? I sure don’t know what the alternate is that actually achieves a peaceful existence. Compromise of any sort seems repugnant to both Israelis and Palestinians.
It's a failed state that 'elects' terrorists who have destroyed any actual opportunity for economic independence or peace.
There's no way forward with Hamas in charge IMO. But what can be done. Any kind of 'go in and fix it' from Israel is going to be terrible in terms of optics even if done with complete benevolence, which it won't, even if they're not as bad.
They could just annex it and move forward with a highly inclusive approach, give Palestine the quality of life they deserve. But that wouldn't sit right with many, for quite fair reasons. Leave a power vacuum? Unlikely to go well.
I think Palestine needs external support and guidence to stand on its own and be a functional state. I'd say that Egypt or Jordan would 'look' best to do that. But it raises a huge number of problems.
At the moment it's basically festering, and things will never improve under the current leadership. What they demand is not reasonable or acceptable, and what they will do until they (Hamas) get what they want is also unacceptable.
So really, it's a question of whether Palestine will ever deal with Hamas themselves, and if not, who else can/should.
Thoughtful, thank you