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[–] [email protected] 150 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 96 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Interestingly, the states rights debate is true, wholly.

The north wanted to keep the right to acknowledge escaped slaves as free, and the south kept sending people up there to kidnap free men and women. They were even known to kidnap free born black people and sell them into slavery.

The south also wanted to charge the north for this "service".

When people talk about states rights, remind them that the south was heavily infringing on the rights of the northern states.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's "true" on a technicality. It was about slavery.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 years ago

States joining the Confederacy were required to enshrine slavery in their constitutions. They didn't have the right to reject it. If it had anything to do with states rights at all, it was about ensuring the states didn't have the right to abolish slavery.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I guess you're one of those people who are incapable of reading between the lines.

Or maybe you didn't read my comment at all?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Eh, sorry, it seemed like you were genuinely convinced that most people were concerned about legal issues. I've met people who tried to make earnest arguments like that.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 years ago

They also put it in their constitution that slavery could never be outlawed. Sounds like a really big issue for states rights

[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 years ago (5 children)

"Buy muh Southern Pride!"

"What about the south are you proud of that involves the battle flag of the side that wanted to keep slavery?"

[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The flag for a nation that lasted less than 5 years. Bill Clinton's presidency was a longer piece of Southern heritage than that.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Cocomelon has lasted for over four times as long as the Confederacy

They're being beaten by mind-numbing nursery rhymes

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Matthew McConaughey's career is almost eight times as long as the Confederacy. Why aren't they proud of that piece of Southern heritage? Why am I not seeing this on the back of jacked-up pickup trucks?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Cuz "that would be gay", and Conservatives only allow themselves to be gay in secret

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

If that is gay, what is this???

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Their fabulous god.

He's super, thanks for asking!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

An actual picture of a 6'3" 215 lb Donald Trump?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

An actual picture of a 6’3" 215 lb Donald Trump^TM^?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Oh sure, a Matthew McConaughey flag is gay but dressing up in a fancy grey suit and hanging around in a tent in a field with a bunch of other fetishists is perfectly straight.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

Your problem here is you're expecting conservatives to use logic

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

An awful, hot, itchy, wool suit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Oh, o-oh my o///o

I don't bother learning anyone's names (or backgrounds, or anything really) in showbiz, but I may make an exception. Strictly for learning. Strictly.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I was proud of being a punker in 1988. That phase lasted longer than the Civil War.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But it didn’t last longer than the racism and manifest destiny that caused the civil war….

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

And ~lived on for decades afterwards~ still lives on to this day

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Real Southern Pride is the 1st Alabama Cavalry riding with Sherman to liberate the South o7

[–] winterayars 2 points 2 years ago
[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I've lived in Minnesota my whole life. Growing up, there was some religiously homeschooled dumb ass serving in the mn national guard who said that the Virginia battle flag was heritage. The last time I talked to him, I told him that the only heritage for us involving that flag is in the MN historical society archives.

[–] winterayars 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Damn, you found a Minnesotan who's enough of a loser to want to give up the flag? I thought that was the one issue that united the Right and Left in that state.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm still not entirely convinced that he wasn't actually from Iowa

[–] winterayars 1 points 2 years ago

That'd make a lot of sense.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The Pride of Racism

(ig idk what else besides losing lol)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Racism.

Feudalism.

Dysfunctional government.

Xenophobia.

Hatred of social mobility.

[–] winterayars 4 points 2 years ago

Losing is a big part of it. Losing their violent defense of racism.