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[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I might be in the minority, but I say let 'em go: provided they take a proportional amount of the US debt with them, and give back all the military assets that the rest of the country bought. They can re-staff all those military bases they named after Confederates on their own dime, while paying back debt and funding their own Social Security.

I bet once they actually get presented the budget for their ideas, all of a sudden they decide they like the Blue states (and their tax base) a lot more than they used to.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I fully agree, fuck em. What do they contribute, cotton? I'm willing to pay higher prices for imported goods to get rid of those racist pricks once and for all.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We'd have to move Kennedy Space Center to Guam or something. There's a good, nonpolitical reason it's in Florida.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's so that crashes only hit Florida, right?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

No. Favorable orbital mechanics given Florida's location, plus failed rockets and staging can fall into the Atlantic instead of over land. Hawai'i would be another option but the natives would protest the fuck out of it and only some of them care about money more than their ideology.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know about the debt thing, but I've had a fantasy for a while that some place like Florida decides to secede, and that attracts all the conservative chuds, white supremacists, and christo-fascists, who all rush to move down there to have their "revolution." Then we just wall Florida off the way they wanted to do with Mexico. The conservatives can have the ultra-capitalist nightmare they've always wanted to build, and the rest of us can get on with life and finally have socialized healthcare and properly funded schools.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Maybe we keep the coasts for launching things like boats and so on. Let them have the very worst parts of the state that are already full "Florida man" anyway and a small sliver of the coast and tell all the cons to move on down to their conservative paradise. We normal Americans will keep everything of value and of military strategic importance and they can have their Jesusland.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Bullshit. Those bases belong to us. They can build their own.

Tough shit if they don't like a Yankee military base in their state.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, they can keep the bases, we would take all the equipment, ammo, and tech. Let whoever decides to stay behind defend the base with their own personal ammo stash.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I wonder how far the first US military convoy out of a seceding state would make it from the base they were cleaning out before Y'all Qaeda decided to capturing the equipment and ammo.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

We can call that "Operation Fort Sumter Redux"!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I’m surprised I had to scroll this far to find this top level comment I thought I was going to have to make myself. Fuck them. Let them secede. Good luck lol they’ll need it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Proportional in terms of population?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That would be the fairest way to do it, of course, but there would be some poetic justice in making it proportional to the seceding state's electoral vote weight.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I like this one the best, looking at you Wyoming

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I think there's some states that should take that deal. North Dakota has a $22b strategic reserve and would only owe ~$75b as a share of it's national debt. It could turn itself into a cold, shale oil, Dubai.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Perhaps they could come up with some sort of 3/5ths compromise.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I loled. It's an underrated comment.