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It is CIAs operation. Cartels own Mexico, CIA owns the Cartels.
Close the border, stop the flow, and criple the CIA.
Call me crazy, but I think there might be an easier way to control the CIA.
Or even reducing the profitability of smuggling drugs by legalizing some of the most popular ones or something. But I guess then they would also lose the Jim Crow 2.0 and would need to come up with something else.
And you think the cartels will just disappear just because you've given them concessions?
If legal alternatives undercut their main income stream, yes, they'll disappear. Or rather, they'll fall apart as their resources become scarce and the 'middle managers' being cut out of the remaining money start fighting the higher ups and each other.
Ending alcohol prohibition didn't strengthen the bootleggers. It put them out of business as Budweiser ate their lunch.
What makes you think they won't just sell their product legally?
They'll almost certainly try to (and some people who are currently involved may see some success). But they won't have their de facto monopoly anymore. And these organizations are rife with internal corruption (shocking, I know); they aren't being run efficiently.
Without their monopoly profits, they aren't going to be able to afford the hit squads, the bribed law enforcement, or the silence of the people who know where the bodies are buried (often literally).
Crime won't magically fall to zero overnight, but these organizations will not be having a good time.
But you're still giving them concessions while the population pays it just because you haven't been able to deal with them properly
You never will. People want drugs. Someone will always provide them. Might as well have some regulations.
Ending the black market the cartel thrives in is the proper way to deal with them. Waging an endless 'war' on a vague concept that makes the most vicious cartel leaders fabulously wealthy is clearly not.
Now is there a particular reason that you're playing devil's strawman all over this thread?
Yes, because drugs ruin entire countries
Businesses operating legally? Sounds like mission accomplished to me.
Former mafias killing people legally? Sounds like hell
legal businesses dont engage in killing people, they just send lawyers after them to make them wish they were dead.
If a legal business sells suicide pills to suicidal people they're indirectly killing them
The fact that they (mostly) aren't doing it with the drugs that are legal, should tell you why. And you already have precedent to know what happens when drugs get legalized - the Mafia is not selling bootlegged alcohol anymore.
I'm pretty sure those cartels get money from a lot of places, even legal ones
I want to help control the activities of the CIA. Hmm, I know, let's build a wall, that will certainly stop the CIA. If this was just about the CIA, we wouldn't be talking about building a wall because of just how stupid that sounds. The CIA can be stopped with a wall? They have the power to smuggle drugs into Mexico, to be sold in the US. You think they are going to let a wall stop them? LOL No, this has never been about stopping the CIA and more about political ideologies and wasting more taxpayer money on NOT the taxpayers.
I'm pretty sure asylum seekers can even defeat a wall unless ladder technology hasn't reached their country yet.
They'll just steal the wall. Literally, they pull pieces off of it
You think a wall will stop the CIA or cartels? You naive sweet summer child :P
borders closed, supply shortens, prices rise and the only people who lose are addicts and the people who lose out due to addicts being left with no support.
Lol, it's like you've never heard of the Mafia.
What is your point. All those who will be affected by a loss in supply will capitalise by increasing their profits. They literally never lose.
Bahahahahha. That's a good one.
Good thing there isn't a second, huge, undefended border on the other side of the United States that smugglers could easily use if they wanted to.
Why not remove power from the CIA directly?
At any rate, enforcement policies simply do not work in terms of effectiveness or money. Read Narconomics by Tom Wainwright. He's an economist who looks at the drug trade like an industry, and he's got a pretty thorough breakdown of how much these policies cost versus their effectiveness.
Not to mention that the way the CIA justifies itself is by claiming to protect us from all these shadowy evil foreign organizations coming to take your rights. Going all in on a border wall is pretty much endorsing their propaganda wholesale. It's exactly what a lot of these CIA ghouls want--more money for their buddies in ICE.
What a fucking joke.