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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

If not for Napoleon we'd still be all ruled by kings in Europe. You can argue the cost wasn't worth it, but given you didn't even give a famous textbook example of "peaceful protests work", it's safe to say your point is mostly BS.

After what happened in the 40s it's fucking insulting to say that holding hands can save the world.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

First thing coming to mind? East Germany 1989.

[–] Jax 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

But see, that happened after fascism had already been fought off — so it doesn't count.

/s , since many people here think of moving goalposts as a legitimate tactic for debate.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

A bit beside the point, but might I add, that, looking at Eastern Germany today, fashism hadn't and hasn't been fought off.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

What are you talking about? It was WWI that ended many of the Kingdoms of Europe, except for the ones that still exist today of course.

You never heard of the Congress of Vienna? Things were pretty much reset to how it was before Napoleon. I guess we got the metric system from the whole debacle, but that feels like something that could've been accomplished without 3 million people dying.

After what happened in the 40s it’s fucking insulting to say that holding hands can save the world.

When did the Germans try to do non-violent resistance? A bunch of people tried to assassinate Hitler (they all failed) but that would be more examples violent resistance failing. I don't know of any widespread non-violent resistance movement against Nazis.