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Got banned as a "fascist sympathizer" from [email protected] for discussing the Ukrainian perspective of the STALKER developers who made changes to the game trilogy (web.archive.org)

submitted 3 days ago by [email protected] to c/meanwhileongrad

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/39086280

My first months on Lemmy were spent on Lemmy.world, which was the biggest instance at the time. I had no experience with Hexbear because .world had defederated that instance. I sometimes saw it being described as a "tankie" instance, but it was nothing specific.

After I moved to .zip, I came across [email protected], which seemed to be free from anything overtly political and reminded me of r/Gamingcirclejerk, so I subscribed to it and occasionally made comments related to gaming.

Today I made multiple comments to a post about an article on the STALKER game developers having removed the Soviet symbols and the Russian audio in the remastered edition of the game. I would argue that in the thread, there were no comments from me that could be construed by a reasonable person as defensive of Nazism, fascism, or even hinting at it. For example, in one of the comments, I linked a Ukrainian law that prohibits the use of Nazi symbols, though I highly advise looking through all my ten comments as to avoid any misunderstanding or false impressions.

Conversely, one comment posted by another user dismissed Holodomor as Nazi propaganda, which I reported, but a moderator of that community just ended up calling me out for that and taking no action, followed by them banning me.

The thread containing all of my untouched posts is still available via lemmy.zip. My comments are also available for viewing via my user page. They are not available on hexbear due to the ban.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Open that post:

Ukraine is literally using israel as an example and btw the donbass uprising happens because azov started killing russophone ukrainians.

36 upvotes. Tons of Azov members were russophones, and the original battalion (to be cleat, fuck them, they were in most cases actual Nazis) spoke russian as their communication language. Also timelines don't add up, and geographically doesn't make any sense.

Absolutely their rules are bullshit performative stuff.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Also worth noting that there was/is a significant number of Russians in Azov, which too works against the ethnic repressions argument made in the STALKER thread on Hexbear. The number of soldiers speaking Russian on the front lines has been a bit of a hot topic in Ukraine, with some of the very patriotic Ukrainians like Yanina Sokolova having famously defended the practice against Iryna Farion. The latter would end up shot dead by someone with Russian ties (as proven by a Russian neo-Nazi group publishing the video of the killing captured by the shooter).

Edit: Slightly reworded a few parts written too hastily.