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I hate that everything now is a subscription service instead of buying it and do whatever you want.

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[–] [email protected] 111 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Ready boys? Say it with me, now.

BROTHERπŸ‘LASERπŸ‘PRINTERπŸ‘

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love the fact that brother basically does no marketing as far as I know. They just end up shining like a diamond because they make a generally good product and everyone else around them makes absolute trash.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

I only bought a brother printer because of recommendations from reddit. It's so much better than my old hp inkjet that randomly started asking me to sign in in order to print or scan.

Why tf would I need to sign in to my HP account online in order to print in my own fucking home.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Yep, totally. In the vile shit that printer business is, Brother seems to be the only brand to not be straight-up anti consumer. I have a Brother all-in-one machine at work, it works out of the box on all devices, scans with whatever app, doesn't push some bullshit custom nagware every time you print and, best of all, ACCEPTS NONAME TONERS without saying a single word of complain. It doesn't refuse to print, doesn't even mention that you may get worse quality prints (yeah right). It just prints and we don't have to think about it and I really appreciate it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I shit you not I have a brother laser printer that I don't even know how old it is. My dad pulled out of our basement and cleaned it up and got it running so I could use it in college back in 2009. Skip ahead to 2016 and I'm using it for the table cards at our wedding. It's 2023 and I still use it from time to time. I've only changed the toner once and cleaned it a handful of times, but that sums up the entirety of the maintenance while I've had it. I have to plug it into my computer via USB which isn't so bad. But they don't have a driver available for OSX anymore so it's now a PC only printer. I'll keep using it until it stops working or isn't compatible with any computer anymore.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have to plug it into my computer via USB which isn’t so bad.

A $15 Pi Zero W running cups will make it a "wireless printer". ... Although you'll probably need this site to find one in stock. Don't pay much more than $15 -- those are scalpers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Regarding the driver, I had the same problem with running my 2005 HP LaserJet 1020 on OSX, but got it running with a built-in driver for a printer in the same build group (LJ 1022, maybe?) so keep that in mind if you haven't already tried it. I know your printer is Brother and not HP, but there may be a native Brother driver already in the OSX build you can use.

You may lose some advanced driver functionality doing this but most printing doesn't require it anyway. If it works you'll be able to print just fine. You can also search your model number and see what Mac printer driver hacks others have come up with, since this was not an uncommon thing with Macs back when I had to do it a few years ago.

But yeah, on the sad day my old HP LJ non-networked non-enshittified printer carks it, I'll be getting a Brother. No way I give HP my business now.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry to burst your bubble but Brother are also going down the subscription path.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They are but the pricing is ok, Β£2 a month for 50 pages. The higher end pricing seems to be around 3p per page which is what they price their toners at. They even allow you to rollover a decent amount of print credit. Now, if they had these printers in shops around the country and I could use the credit for those instead of just in my own home, I think it would be a really cool service. The local corner shop charges Β£2 to print a single sheet of A4 and then 50p per page after that.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Print credit? Fucking theft.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Do they force you to use the subscription model, or do they brick your device if you fail to keep up on payments?

If yes to either, fuck them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

No joke. I had HP and I knew Brother was painfree experience and when I was buying said HP, I completely forgot about them. Few years forward my old HP avoided destruction by sheer luck and my brother's will to try and tame it. These days I have Brother laser printer and it takes whatever you throw at it without complaints. It's so obedient am having issues accepting such behavior.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yes, I have a b&w brother laser/scanner than is 6 to 7 years old and it goes on without any issues (except networking BS at times, but that is likely my problem)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Got it, but which printer if I want to print photos (only a hand full every one or two months)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

A printing kiosk or photo shop. They will be so much better quality. If you buy an inkjet and only use it once or twice a month the heads get clogged and you waste loads of ink cleaning it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

You can get them printed for 12 cents a photo at Walmart.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For me it's so rare that I get them printed at the pharmacy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

What the other guy said. Unless you genuinely need high-quality color photos on a daily or weekly basis, you do not need an inkjet printer. Go to a print shop, get it done right and it'll be much less headache -- but the vast majority of the time I've needed something printed, it has been swathes of black text on white paper. And a plain B&W laser printer does that perfectly, with no bullshit. I just recommend Brother because they're a decent company.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Epson ink tank. Bought it second hand and downloaded the drivers directly from them. They always want you to buy ink, but thats expected.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

What about Epson? Specifically I'm considering one of the ecotank ones because I need to print stuff for board games like info sheets and so on that need rich colours and designs. Might even look into A3+ printers.

Are those useful? The per-page cost looks crazy low for an inkjet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Got one of these years ago and it's still kickin'

I find myself being a printer snob by judging a friend of mine for buying into HPs ink subscription ecosystem.

[–] idefix 1 points 1 year ago

I've moved to Brother from HP. Disappointed by the support for Linux. While the driver exists, a lot of them aren't packaged. HP does a better job at that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

But people will think something is wrong when it just works and prints for years without needing any replacements

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

But never EVER buy a brother inkjet, its the same as all the other brands. You cannot insert bootleg ink anymore. My printer didnt accept any ink apart from the oem.