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Somehow I feel lemmy.ml got more extreme over the last two years. RT news is the official foreign propaganda channel of Russia, almost everybody knows this (at least in Europe)..
long overdue to defederate
lots of them have smurf accounts on other instances anyway these days
Originally, .ml was the flagship instance for a fledgeling new software project, and the devs had to try and keep the mask on as much as they could for it to be a general purpose main instance. But over time that mask slipped, and users fled to other instances. Which means the only users left on .ml today are the fellow tankies. And knowing that, now they don't seem to try to hide it anymore.
And the fact that it's run by the devs is a serious detriment. New users are going to take one look at it, and think Lemmy is tankie central. And the sane ones are going to leave.
This is part of why I chose a Mbin instance over Lemmy. It's hard for me to even recommend Lemmy the software because of its devs.
I know this probably isnt the right place to ask this question but what is mbin. I know people said it was like kbin but I have no clue what that is ethier.
It's another link aggregator/forum software that uses the same ActivityPub protocol as Lemmy, Mastodon, PixelFed, Peertube, etc. Meaning that Mbin instances can talk to Lemmy, as well as any other Fediverse software.
Mbin forked off of the earlier Kbin when the original developer kinda went MIA.
https://joinmbin.org/
I set up an account will definitely give it a go.
I wish that they were API-compatible so that the same clients could be used, which is the big weakness of the non-Lemmy Threadiverse servers.
Yeah, I don't recommend Lemmy for largely that reason. But I'll use it while decent instances exist.
The annoying thing is there definitely are a subset of ML users who aren’t tankies. And just kind of obliviously joined that instance because it was recommended to them.
My first lemmy account was on ML.
It probably has, they've spent just the last almost 2 years or so of Lemmy-verse growth since the Reddit API debacle banning, censoring and ostracizing newcomers that didn't fit in with the tankie mindset
They've become the echo chamber they always accuse .world/.ee/SJW of being
I've noticed the same thing. I do think part of it is .ml has been accruing users from other, more widely defederated instances like lemmygrad and hexbear.
Trolls want an audience, after all.
Why dont you just fuck back to reddit then ? You do know that lemmy is the foss project of marxists? Might be happier at stormfront / reddit