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Animal rights doesn’t fit genocide because there’s no mass extinction. For instance there’s more cows and chickens today than any other point in history
Climate change fits genocide because there’s mass extinction. Whole ecosystems wiped out so we can drive to the next city
There are no words that accurately apply to other animals and describe the severity of the situation. And it's like that on purpose.
If I would have said murder, you'd say murder doesn't apply to non-human animals. It's only when a human kills another human.
I chose those words because there are none to describe the horrors that are happening.
Why doesn’t murder work?
It doesn't quite capture the cruelty or severity of the situation.
Imagine if in the Holocaust instead of using gas chambers to just kill off everyone, instead they bred them and then bred their kids and shoved their kids into gas chambers and then ate them and then shoved their kids into gas chambers and then ate them continually for hundreds of years.
It truly is the worst crime to ever be committed.
I think that's a bit pedantic. When talking about the genocide of animals it's generally in the context of their suffering, not in the context of climate change.
Killing them by itself is not "bad" for the climate, but having too many of them and having them take up loads of resources is.
Plus there may not be extinction because we keep breeding them, but the number of animals slaughtered every year would put the Holocaust to shame if we held animals into higher regard than currently (hence this topic being brought up)
Then they are wrong on top of being irrelevant
Wrong about what ? It being a genocide?
Is being semantically right the only thing that matters?
Even if we agree the term genocide is not correct, why would this point be irrelevant in a discussion about lawfulness and morality?
Edit: Thinking about, it would be more akin to slavery, but that's still very much in line with the op
I feel like the other person forgot what the entire original original post is about. It's all about "just because something is legal doesn't mean its good" and this other person is like "killing animals isn't genocide" but the whole idea is "killing animals is legal, but that doesn't make it right". What's that other person on about lol
Yeah I feel all this thread is just a knee jerk reaction because it's something tangential to veganism or something. The more I see this kind of topic brought up on Lemmy or elsewhere, the more I notice the immediate rejection of debate.
Even more staggering here when imo it's related to the topic at hand and not just spam in unrelated threads.
Preach. Not sure if it's cognitive dissonance or the fact that your views are challenged in the slightest, but it's saddening. Animals are our pals and the fact that they're treated like lesser beings is sickening to me
See my original comment
It can be used as an example but not standalone as an argument
The Holocene extinction event has been going for millenia. Every acre of farmland is an acre where wild animals can't live. There's more cows but the aurochs are gone. There's more cats but they kill the birds. We genocide native species in favor of domesticated species.