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https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-01-08/lack-of-water-from-hydrants-in-palisades-fire-is-hampering-firefighters-caruso-says
I'm just confused. Do fire hydrants store water?
I think it's building on his previous statement that there's this giant faucet that sends all the water from California into the Pacific:
https://www.c-span.org/clip/campaign-2024/user-clip-the-giant-faucet/5132479
No, they're piped into the municipal water supply. But if there's a broad forest fire and a drought the municipal system can lack the available water to pump to the hydrants in the quantities needed for fighting fires. The tap can run dry (and it very recently did). In such a case it's not untenable to say there's no water in the hydrants. It's a bit of an awkward word choice ("no water for the hydrants" or "insufficient water pressure for the hydrants" would have been better), but IMHO there's better things to criticize him over.
You the can criticize the dude for anything. None of it matters. I just thought this was dumb as shit.
"NO WATER IN THE FIRE HYDRANTS
NO SIDE ON THE SIDE WALK
Woohaw!
Woohaw!
Gotcha
We're gonna get the water from your house (your house)"
Wouldn't they technically have water in them because they're essentially just the end of a pipe filled with water? It's not like the water sits below the hydrant and only flows through when the hydrant is opened. Right? Maybe I've been thinking about them wrong this whole time... 🤔
There are several types of fire hydrants, two of which are called wet barrel and dry barrel. Dry barrel hydrants have a shut off valve at the interface between the hydrant and the supply piping, with drains at the base that allows the hydrant to drain water in the surrounding ground. Wet barrel hydrants will stay filled with water at all times and will have shut off valves at each individual hose connection.
Wet barrel hydrants are 'faster' since you don't have to wait for the hydrant to fill and are easier to maintain, but are prone to being damaged in areas where the temperatures drop below freezing. Dry barrel hydrants are used in areas where the temperatures can drop below freezing because they're not filled with water at all times.
Wet barrel hydrants, however, don't store water anymore that the underground piping does. They may have 10s of gallons of water in them, but that's a drop in the bucket compared to what's typically needed for fire fighting purposes.