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[–] ayyy 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So if killing one person is bad, isn’t killing hundreds to thousands of innocent people/year hundreds to thousands of times more bad?

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think their argument is his death changes nothing.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It does, though. This guy was a fucking asshole even for a health insurance company CEO.

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean, yes it does change things for CEO+family. But nothing is going to change regarding how these companies treat people.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I meant in the sense that he took a, well, normal insurer and raised its claim denial rates to one of the highest in the industry. The world is legitimately a better place with him gone, because while I doubt UHC will accept more claims at least he won't be around to kill even more people.

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He won't be, but the next guy will do the same shit.

[–] 9bananas@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

if only there was a recent example of how to effectively solve that particular problem...

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's your wishful thinking, it won't happen again.

[–] 9bananas@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

of course it won't! it hasn't happened ever before either!

like it didn't happen in 2011.

like it didn't happen in 2006.

like it didn't happen in the 1920s.

or the 1800s.

or the 1700s.

or the 1600s.

or the 1500s.

it's always never happened before, and it always never happened again.

tyrants never got what they deserved before, so they'll never get what they deserved again.

are you just unfamiliar with the entire concept of history?

here's a handy list of all the times this exact thing never happened: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assassinations

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Your most recent example is 13 years ago, then 18 years ago. Do you honestly think 3 assassinations in 20 years is making CEOs so the right thing? Cause it sure doesn't seem like it.

[–] 9bananas@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

no, but:

    1. those were off the top of my head, there's definitely been more.
    1. these events tend to happen in bursts. it starts with one dead tyrant. then there's another. then there's general mayhem for a short while. then order sets in again.

it's a cycle as old as civilization itself.

(not to be confused with that bullshit cyclical history theory... it's "a" cycle, not "the" cycle and it's neither guaranteed, nor predictable, necessary, nor regular. just to preempt any confusion about that)

another example:

The Defenestrations of Prague (Czech: Pražské defenestrace, German: Prager Fenstersturz, Latin: Defenestratio Pragensis) were three incidents in the history of Bohemia in which people were defenestrated (thrown out of a window). Though already existing in Middle French, the word defenestrate is believed to have first been used in English in reference to the episodes in Prague in 1618 when the disgruntled Protestant estates threw two royal governors and their secretary out of a window of the Hradčany Castle and wrote an extensive apologia explaining their action. In the Middle Ages and early modern times, defenestration was not uncommon

[–] timestatic@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago

He isn't except from the justice system last time I remember. He is also not personally and individual to blame for the sole responsibility of those deaths. Also a murder isn't the same as a person dying of something else because that didn't get treated.

I'm not a total corpo bootlicker no worries, but I believe this is just one more death this whole system claims and I despise the celebration of his death. I believe in the end this death changes nothing, like I said