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This is basically the entire process Libertarians go through before realizing they're idiots... They have to re-learn all of the things we've already collectively learned as a society, generations ago. But I guess they just can't believe that we need taxes to fund roads and water infrastructure, until they experience it first hand.
Not even just Libertarians, just conservatives in general these days. Look at Elon Musk and how quick he re-learned why Twitter would "censor" shit.
It's like these people think everything we do is just empty tradition, and until they experience it first hand, they will never believe we need a regulation. When the reality is that many of our regulations are written in blood, and it's idiotic and indefensible to want to go back to those times and do it all again. Simply because the richest dude in the world can't be bothered to read a goddamn book.
What you're talking about boils down to who to trust. Unfortunately, governments are notorious for abusing such trust. I can't fault anyone who questions the way things are, and why- assuming of course that they are receptive to answers other than "it's a government conspiracy to control us." Not that that's never true, but it's certainly not always true.
It's not just governments that these people distrust, it's anything they don't understand. That includes science. Science does not have a political agenda.
Science does not, but science gets funding from people with political agendas, so it's not immune.
Source? Because that assumes that this is the normality. Which is interesting as a statement, although of course it massively depends on your local government, but not everyone lives in Syria or so.
This always gets carted out, and yet then people always have to point at the same dozen or so big things in hundreds of years of gov history, and never mention the possibly billions of non-abused trust moments in the same space of time.
USA checking in with a very short, nowhere near comprehensive, list of the more egregious breaches in trust by the federal government; local and state governments undoubtedly have more to add: Business Plot left uninvestigated Kennedy Assassination and the Warren Commission War on Drugs Bush v Gore decided by Supreme Court for Bush despite losing popular vote which led into... 9/11 and Weapons of Mass Destruction - wars in Iraq and Afghanistan justified by lies
As I said in the other comment, your reply also exemplifies how people can't even hold an attention span for more than a single word any more, and as a result completely misunderstand something. I'm sorry, but you exactly showcase how modern political weaponization of internet reactionism works.
History...
I love how nobody reads beyond that word and completely misunderstands the comment. Such a beautiful example of how America got so 110% politics-illiterate.
Edward Snowden immediately springs to mind... You can add in most of the law enforcement agencies in every country with the presence of the internet and cell phones. How many eyes are we up to now?
That's not what the question was about? I mean sure, if you stop after that exact word and immediately hit "reply".
I think healthy skepticism when it comes to the government is good. Especially if people want transparency. Holding them accountable for abuses is even better, but has been less than ideal in practice over the years.
Unfortunately, people tend to skip healthy skepticism and dive right into conspiracy driven paranoid delusions, and lack of government accountability does feed into that mindset. Combine that with Maga propaganda, fox News, and other extremist media and we've got a shit show.
Is our corn subsidy written in blood?
Has it spilled any blood by existing?
High fructose corn syrup’s pretty damn bad for people, and it’s everywhere because of government subsidies.
I guess the big question is: can government code cause death too? Or only prevent it? Are we always safer with more laws on the books?
Would it blow your mind to find out it's nuanced and good judgement and data should be used to determine when we should or should not implement new laws or repeal old ones? Or do you prefer binary choices that force a loss on one side or another?