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The U.S. conservative political commentor Candace Owens was refused a visa to enter New Zealand for a speaking engagement because she had been banned from another country, immigration officials said Thursday.

News of the ruling came weeks after neighboring Australia also rejected her visa request, citing remarks in which she denied Nazi medical experimentation on Jews in concentration camps during World War II.

Owens is scheduled to speak at a series of events in several Australian cities and in Auckland, New Zealand, in February and March next year. Tickets remain on sale and there is no acknowledgement on the promoter’s website that she has been refused entry to both countries.

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[–] [email protected] 133 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Can the US reject her trip home?

[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is a great way to penalize these far-right grifters. Not only are they prevented from making money on their speaking tour, but they are publicly lambasted and restricted in travel, and there's nothing they can do about it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

There's no way that that'll be used against the good guys once the bad guys are in office. It's just not possible!

/s just in case

[–] explodicle 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Sounds fair, we can ban the right from going to NZ and the left from going to Russia.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago

I don't mind. Any country that would ban me personally based on my beliefs is one I wouldn't want to be in anyway. Now if they'd ban people based on their country of origin, I think that's painting with too broad a brush. We can't trust all countries to use such nuance sometimes.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Appoint her to the cabinet, you say?

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Maybe... but wait, has she tried to rape anyone before?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't know if that qualifies her

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It seems to have qualified Vivek.

[–] xmunk 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You know... as a fan of the elder scrolls I am deeply saddened at the namespace clash.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago

Just remember that it rhymes with cake. If you forget, I know this awesome rap song...

[–] xmunk 4 points 1 day ago

If it's a requirement, I'm sure she could manage something on the plane ride home.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If she doesn't have a citizenship in another country it is just this side of not happening that the sates would leave her stateless as the rules currently stand.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I don't know if the rules have changed since the 1930s, but when my Grandfather, a German Jew, was granted UK citizenship, his nationality was put down as stateless.

So people, at least in the 1930s, could be stateless.

[–] the_crotch 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

The german government of that era wasnt really big on following the rules

[–] [email protected] 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

The British government was and they were the ones who put stateless on his papers.

[–] the_crotch 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah but it was the Germans who made him stateless, the UK took him in and gave him a new state

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

The UK acknowledged he was stateless. He was a German citizen when he came to the UK in 1930, he became a citizen in 1936. For at least 3 of those years, he was officially stateless because the UK agreed with Nazi Germany on that point.

Therefore it was possible to be stateless then. If it was possible to be stateless then, it is conceivably possible to be stateless now unless international law had changed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

It has, while still possible it doesn't happen often.