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[–] [email protected] 98 points 1 day ago (75 children)

Biden did more to help the working class than any president in my lifetime. People are too stupid or don't pay enough attention to realize it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 hours ago

You're not wrong but their messaging was shit and Kamala did not run on Biden's wins. She ran on his losses.

Also most progressive US president is a really low bar lol.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (3 children)

People are too stupid or don’t pay enough attention

Biden ended a bunch of CARES Act provisions that benefited working families and children. Medicaid enrollment was cut. The monthly paid out child tax cut extension was ended. Mandated Paid Sick Leave ended.

That's what people were stupidly noticing.

Meanwhile, greedflation jacked up the prices of consumer goods straight into 2023. Biden Dems were angry when people refused to stop paying attention to prices that outpaced salaries, while the Feds twiddled their thumbs.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago

Biden? Are you sure it wasn't the fuckwit Republicans in Congress? You might want to check your sources.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Medicaid enrollment was cut.

By Congress, not Biden, though the Consolidated Appropriations Act as a demand by Republicans.

The monthly paid out child tax cut extension was ended.

Again Republicans voted against the reauthorization because they didn't want to hand Democrats a "win".

Mandated Paid Sick Leave ended.

This was only ever intended to be temporary as it only applies when there was federal or state quarantine in effect. Democrats in the House introduced the Healthy Families Act which would guarantee all workers 7 sick days a year. The act was filibustered by Republicans in the Senate.

Democrats are not the problem here.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago

Democrats are not the problem here.

no amount of facts are going to sway the 'but both SIDES BAD UNNHH' no matter how much you try to rub the data in their stupid faces.

A plurality of morons voted directly against their own best interests or there was some gigantic, undetectable fraud. Either way, country's fucked.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It's true that inflation outpaced wages, but this was only for a period following Covid. And while everyone pointed out when inflation pulled away, no one seemed to notice when wages bounced back.

Tens of millions of deaths globally will inevitably cause supply chain issues, and no amount of fiscal policy will prevent that scarcity. So people have to pay more for the same value. But things also recovered under Biden to more than compensate for that deficit. Here's the growth rate of inflation and wages over the past four years:

1000002708

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago

To people literally dying of corporate capitalism, Harris’s mantra was, “Look at these charts, people — everything’s pretty good!”

[–] [email protected] 15 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

And this is why we lost. People are screaming for help, and Democrats just said "you're wrong, everything is actually fine. It's all in your head. Biden actually did help you! You were just too uninformed to notice it."

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

People act like Democrats were just ignoring what people wanted, while Republican politicians and judges were blocking them every step of the way. Just look at how many ways Biden's school debt relief plans were defeated.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Just look at how many ways Biden’s school debt relief plans were defeated.

Because Biden did it in ways the judges could block. Per the Department of Education, the executive has the authority to simply delete the debt and dare the judges to create new debt out of thin air.

[–] Supernova1051 1 points 26 minutes ago

Because Biden did it in ways the judges could block

What options are available?

Per the Department of Education, the executive has the authority to simply delete the debt

That doesn't seem to be the case as "The president ... can forgive debts only when Congress authorizes it" [1].

[1] https://theconversation.com/what-are-the-limits-of-presidential-power-to-forgive-student-loans-a-constitutional-law-expert-answers-5-questions-201138

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

They are not really lying, which is especially frustrating. But it wasn't enough by a long shot.

Telling someone that can't get out of a bog that you moved him a centimeter into the right direction will probably earn you some insults, despite the help.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago

The thing is that people somehow don't seem to realise there's a bog monster pulling in the opposite direction. Yes, it's a problem that they only got pulled 1 cm in the right direction. Yes, it's well worth criticising that it could have been 10 cm if the person doing the pulling hadn't tied a hand behind their back. But 1 cm of movement in the right direction is still far better than 2 m of movement in the wrong direction because the bog monster gained the upper hand.

And the people standing on the sidelines saying "let go of their hand and grab mine! I'll pull you in the right direction with both hands!" are also acting in bad faith, because if they actually had an interest in doing that they'd be grabbing onto the person who's currently doing the pulling and pulling helping them pull rather than expecting the victim to release and flounder around for their hand.

[–] eestileib 3 points 7 hours ago

Absolutely fucking right.

"Your doctor won't be able to offer you prenatal care or freeze your eggs for fertility treatment!

"I can't afford rent or eggs and you think I have a DOCTOR? You think I can afford to even think about having a kid?"

"Look at the stock market though!"

[–] [email protected] 23 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

This is true, but only because every President since FDR did damage to the working class. Biden was absolutely a breath of fresh air, and it's unfortunate that neither he nor Kamala were loud enough about it.

With the campaign Kamala ran, it would surprise the hell out of me if most voters understood the good that Biden did. To average people, it makes no difference to them that inflation is back to normal when the price impacts don't go away. It was campaign malpractice to try and sit on past accomplishments without offering new initiatives to make things better.

What Kamala offered was too little, too complicated, and too quiet. All voters heard was that she would be the same as Biden, and that CEOs and neocon warmongers love her.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

To average people, it makes no difference to them that inflation is back to normal when the price impacts don't go away.

The price impacts were never going to go away! It infuriates me that people were dumb enough to believe this! It's not how economics works and it's not something the government can control!!!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

It's totally irrelevant whether or not these voters understand the underlying economics. What they know is that they can't afford to make a car payment and buy groceries anymore, and they know that the Democratic messaging is totally inadequate and out of touch. If your political strategy requires voters to understand the underlying economics realities, then you damn well better be telling them what they should know.

[–] GhiLA 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Biden did more to help the working class...

What's he doing right now?

Hiding under the desk?

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