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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

People act like Democrats were just ignoring what people wanted, while Republican politicians and judges were blocking them every step of the way. Just look at how many ways Biden's school debt relief plans were defeated.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

People act like Democrats were just ignoring what people wanted, while Republican politicians and judges were blocking them every step of the way.

Joe Manchin was a Democrat when he blocked BBB. He was a Democrat when he killed the expanded child tax credit and doubled child poverty in the US overnight. Sinema was a Democrat when she delivered the thumbs down that remains the party's last word on the minimum wage.

We saw Democrats get in their own way over and over during this administration.

Ordering us to be happy when we saw what happened is no different than ordering someone who can't afford groceries to be happy that the economy is working great for billionaires.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Manchin wouldn't have mattered if there weren't dozens of Republicans voting against it too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Republicans voted with their party.

So did Manchin.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

The Republican party is the problem. Manchin is irrelevant.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago

Manchin did what you wanted him to and so you're deflecting.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Just look at how many ways Biden’s school debt relief plans were defeated.

Because Biden did it in ways the judges could block. Per the Department of Education, the executive has the authority to simply delete the debt and dare the judges to create new debt out of thin air.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He really doesn't have that authority and the supreme court would have shut that down even faster.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

He really doesn’t have that authority

He does, per Harvard Law School

supreme court would have shut that down

There's not much the scotus can do once it's already been deleted.

If they order Biden to just create new records of debt, he can ignore them. Even attempting that would help create political will to marginalize the SCOTUS. Not that Biden would never pack the court, because "it would make it political"

[–] Supernova1051 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Because Biden did it in ways the judges could block

What options are available?

Per the Department of Education, the executive has the authority to simply delete the debt

That doesn't seem to be the case as "The president ... can forgive debts only when Congress authorizes it" [1].

[1] https://theconversation.com/what-are-the-limits-of-presidential-power-to-forgive-student-loans-a-constitutional-law-expert-answers-5-questions-201138

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The president has the power to order the Department of education to delete the debt..

It doesn't matter if the courts later turn around and go "that was illegal", the debt is already gone and watching them try to create it out of thin air would be a wonderful tool to destroy the political legitimacy of the right-wing courts.

[–] Supernova1051 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The president has the power to order the Department of education to delete the debt…

any sources to back this up? stating it as fact does not make it one.