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[โ€“] [email protected] 53 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Diplomatic immunity, technically felon trump isn't stepping into the country, there is a bubble of "USA" around him.

Physically he is there, but whatever country's jurisdiction doesn't apply to him. Or any diplomat for that matter. ๐Ÿ˜“

Edit: To clarify, it doesn't mean he has the right to enter any country. A country can still declare a person "persona non grata" and ban people from entering including head of states, although I doubt any country is gonna deny the leader of the most powerful country (in terms of military strength) from a official visit because his convicted felon status.

Diplomatic immunity is just gonna be the excuse a country uses to bypass any law in a country that may prevent a foreigner from entering.

[โ€“] Kecessa 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

That's not how diplomatic immunity works, it's for crimes committed inside the host country, the host country can refuse entry to anyone, even diplomats or presidents. Just because you're the president of the US it doesn't mean you can just show up in any country.

Just like Bush for his DUI, Trump will need to have the paperwork necessary to be granted access to Canada as a person with a criminal record.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My comment has been edited to clarify what I meant.

[โ€“] Kecessa 9 points 1 week ago

And your comment is still wrong. Diplomatic immunity has nothing to do with the process any foreigner with a criminal record can go through to visit Canada. It's paperwork and it's the same thing Bush was doing to visit Canada while he was president 20 years ago.

https://ircc.canada.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=142&top=8

Again, diplomatic immunity is about things the person does while inside the host country if they're acting as a representative of their country and it only protects certain people, not anyone sent by a country and in Canada it doesn't even apply to presidents/premiers/kings of foreign nations.

[โ€“] sentient_loom 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

there is a bubble of โ€œUSAโ€ around him.

I like this visual. It's like a force field.

[โ€“] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

More like a fart cloud

[โ€“] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

That's not how diplomatic immunity works. A nation is welcome to ban entry to any foreign national.

Diplomatic immunity is for crimes commited within a foreign nation. It's also worth notting that the immunity can be revoked as well by the nation that said foreign national is from, there by allowing them to be arrested and tried under the local justice system.

[โ€“] HenriVolney 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How does it work when the diplomat / head of state has been sentenced by an international court for war crimes or crimes against humanity?

[โ€“] Kecessa 3 points 1 week ago

The host country can recognize it and arrest them... or not. Technically Mongolia should have arrested Putin when he visited not too long ago, they didn't because that would have been political suicide.

The international court is a completely different beast from a national court.