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Lily Allen Makes More Money from OnlyFans Than Spotify (consequence.net)

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Am I missing something? Does it not say she makes an estimated $4000 per DAY from Spotify and $8000 per MONTH from onlyfans?

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 month ago (4 children)

https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/lily-allen-feet-pictures-make-more-money-spotify-streams-1235811354/

Allen’s daily stream count on Spotify as of Oct. 17 was about 851,623. Assuming that number is correct, the Music Streaming Royalty Calculator estimates Spotify would’ve paid a total of $4,077 a day, with $3,239 going to sound recording for the copyright owner; $336 of mechanical royalties going to the publisher, who pays the songwriter; and $503 in performance royalties going to performance rights organizations (ASCAP, BMI, etc.).

Which of these numbers goes to her? I'm just confused, I think.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Everybody likes to hate Spotify but if they pay out 4000 dollars a day and the artist gets nothing, that doesn't sound like Spotify is the main problem.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

That's pretty well known. They cut shitty deals with the record labels so they can have a large library. The record companies are making massive bank on Spotify, unlike pretty much every other party involved, including Spotify.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

There's a definite industry problem, but that doesn't excuse Spotify.

Apple Music pays artists 50-100% more than Spotify do per play, and Tidal pay triple to quadruple. Even Amazon pay artists more than Spotify; only YouTube is worse.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

But doesn't that mean these just pay more to the record companies?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

An unknown and probably pitiful fraction of $336, by the looks of it.

$336 of mechanical royalties going to the publisher, who pays the songwriter

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Ok I did a little searching. She might get some of the $336 to the publisher/songwriter, but only if she is credited as a writer. Not every song is written by the artist. There doesn't seem to be anything in that breakdown that goes to the artist specifically. The bulk of the money is going to the copyright owner, who is often the record company, and seems to be who owns her songs. It seems like whatever she gets paid would be up to whatever contract she signed with them.

This pdf file explains that a typical major label artist might make 18% of the $4077 per day.

https://www.manatt.com/Manatt/media/Media/PDF/US-Streaming-Royalties-Explained.pdf

If she makes $266 a day from onlyfans, she has to be making around 8% of the $3,239 the record company is getting daily for it to be less than onlyfans.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

$503 in performance royalties going to performance rights organizations (ASCAP, BMI, etc.).

Performance rights organisations would pay her for performing. She's get a fraction of that.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

She’d owe a dollar at the end of each day. Which means she would lose money being on Spotify.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

If those are the numbers I don't see why people are complaining about Spotify, the problem doesn't seem to be there

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

The article is missing the content from the quoted article for the 4,000 a day. It pays out 4,000 a day to the studios and publishers, whatever actually % of that she gets is probably less than 10.