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[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 hours ago (6 children)

Ever wonder why these captchas are always cars, bicycles, motorcycles, traffic lights and crosswalks? Because YOU are doing the work of teaching the next generation of AI for self-driving cars.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 hours ago

Can’t wait until we get trolley problem CAPTCHAs and we have to choose the square with the most expendable human lives

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I don't believe it, at least not anymore.

Google has had more than enough data to train AI models from reCAPTCHA for many years. In 2010 it displayed 100 million captchas per day. You simply do not need hundreds of billions of solved captchas in your data set.

I feel like its only purpose nowadays is stopping basic bots and annoying people who don't let themselves be tracked as much as advertisers would like.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

Yeah the most recent version of CAPTCHA is completely seamless for the end user because there is no more value to be had gathering this kind of data. Instead it runs in the background of the web site, looking at your mouse movements/clicks/keystrokes, and determining whether or not you're a bot based on that information.

The problem is a lot of websites still use the old version, or their own hacked together CAPTCHA alternative, which decent bots have been able to beat for a while now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

How does it know when it’s right if you’re the one teaching it?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

You and many other humans are doing verification work

It's pretty sure it's already right, but if enough people get the same image and get it wrong the same way then something's up, flag it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

I took some compsci classes years ago when this tech was new and that's exactly how it was described as being handled

Once image recognition software got good enough to be right most of the time they started this shit to help get it the rest of the way to all of the time

Do it any other way and you have to pay those people

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Theres a CGPGrey video that describes old techniques. It's not quite up to date on some of its predictions, but it is how some machine learning works. Of course, it doesn't discuss current proprietary techniques, because those are company secrets. Still, it's as good a guess we'll likely get, unless something radically different has been invented:

https://youtu.be/R9OHn5ZF4Uo

There is also a second video about more modern stuff, but it's more a footnote:
https://youtu.be/wvWpdrfoEv0

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

My favorite is when it asks me to identify stairs. I just imagine a self-driving car mistaking a set of stairs as more road and deciding to try and climb the steps.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Actually, it's training a self-driving humanoid robot that's supposed to climb stairs in order to terminate any potential John Connor that's inside a house upstairs.