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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The world would be far more Socialized.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (3 children)

That's actually the really sad story here.

Every "experimental" regime was either toppled (Chile) or had to align with the USSR (Cuba) to survive. There was never a real attempt at democratic socialist politics without interference from superpowers.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There was never a government at all without interference from superpowers.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Of course, but most governments are allowed to mostly be sovereign.

Sweden or Australia play ball on their own, no need for a coup here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Lol, what? Australia is a US lackee more than anywhere else. And the CIA was definitely involved in the Whitlam sacking.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

most governments are allowed to mostly be sovereign

Generally speaking, sovereign governments achieve that sovereignty through military might or the inability of would-be rulers to rule them, not by simply being β€œallowed” to govern themselves by neighbors.

The USA did not invent power.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Idk, but I feel like Olof Palme (PM of Sweden) def got murdered by the USA for his criticism on the Vietnam War. Or by South Africa for his criticism on apartheid.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

My relative likes to mention Nicaragua in the 1970s/80s, but I haven't had the time to read up about it.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

All Socialism is democratic, including Cuba and the USSR. Trying to reform the system along Socialist lines from within the system like Allende is why he sadly failed and was couped by the US Empire.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

The US tried to invade Cuba as well, and tried to kill Castro, several times. That's ultimately why he did align with the USSR - choosing the bully that's slightly more on your side.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

This is a non sequitur. It doesn't follow that Allende choosing reform over revolution is what resulted in the US interference. The US has been known to interfere in revolutionary movements as well.

[–] ThrowawayPermanente 0 points 3 months ago

Just imagine how scared and hungry we could all be