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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

the 2 common culprits in all these horrible stories are: 1) human stupidity 2) gun proliferation. solving the first would require eugenism. solving the second is a big american no-no. So don’t call it horrible, just live with it. It’s just a normal by-product of american culture.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

IMHO solving 1 needed educations, but that’s also a big American no-no, so we’re back to square one.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I'm not sure eugenics is ever the answer

Wtf?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

IMHO solving 1 needed educations, but that’s also a big American no-no

No it's not. For all of their ills, stupidity, nonsense, fraud, and extremely questionable decisions the NRA does run education campaigns with their "Eddie Eagle" program. A big problem is that it has been kicked out of schools, especially schools in Blue States, so they're unable to reach one of the audiences that need it the most.

It's like Red States kicking Sex Education out of schools and being shocked at teen pregnancies. Education works far better than restriction. Always.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it has been kicked out of schools

So, as @[email protected] said, it's a big no-no for Americans.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I hadn't thought of it quite that way but I suppose so. American's do seem to have a nasty habit of not wanting to teach our children about things we don't like.

[–] damnYouSun 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Why would the gun be loaded? At the very least the gun and the ammo should be separated.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

You are 100% correct but that loops is back to #1.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Separating ammo isn't actually securing the firearm though. Loaded or unloaded it should still be property secured. And you can safely store a fire loaded if the firearm is actually in some kind of safe. The parents were simply negligent.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Not if your concerned about personal safety. I don't live in the best neighborhood. So the time to slide in 12ga rounds might cost me my life.

https://youtu.be/AItWcBU-NEA?t=238

All my others are in safes and the ammo is not easily accessible.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The better question is why was a handgun needed? People shouldn't buy deadly weapons for fun.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Most people buy a handgun like that for self-defense. Likely because they don't expect the cops to show up and protect them. And there isn't anything wrong with owning something dangerous if it's property secured and used safely. These parents were negligent.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Solving the first would require the end of human existence. You can't breed out stupidity, eugenics doesn't solve anything.