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[–] threelonmusketeers 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

That's more than I would have thought. I wonder how close we are to those lines crossing, as EV chargers proliferate and gas stations dwindle?

5 years? 10 years? 20 years?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Well, considering you almost always leave home with a full "tank" (charge), you don't need as many EV stations.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (3 children)

But that ignores the significant number of people that live in apartments and have no convenient access to a charger like homeowners do. If EVs are to become dominant, that problem needs to be addressed with a huge increase in EV chargers compared to what is available now

[–] thetreesaysbark 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Alot of cities around the world are making lamposts with outlets you can plug in to. This would essentially mean every parking bay can become a 'charging station ' and we don't need to waste as much land on the equivalent of gas stations like we do today.

It also satisfies the apartment issue.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Problem with these chargers is that at least here in the UK it works out more expensive per mile than petrol. This is pretty much the only thing putting me off as I have no ability to use a home charger at my home.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Is it really ? Did you try doing the calculation ?

I got an electric car and everyone who don't own an EV is telling me the same thing. But when I do the calculation even in expensive charger it's still cheaper per km compared to an ICE.

However public charger will always be more expensive than a charger at home.

Edit; I'm not in the UK do I don't know the situation there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Wife did the maths yes. We were looking to get one through a work scheme.

If we could home charge it would win hands down. Without that sadly not.

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[–] thetreesaysbark 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Is that due to the providers adding too much of a margin?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

That would be my assumption without deep diving it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

This needs to be handled with a federal mandate probably. There should be a minimum (which should increase over time) percentage of charging outlets available per apartment available to rent. It is a huge issue apartment dwellers are being ignored here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Agreed. I unfortunately don't trust apartments to bear that burden unless they're told to. And even then, the "lamppost" answer the other guy gave very much feels like a handwaved, non-answer. It's a tricky problem to solve outside of just putting charging stations literally everywhere I feel.

[–] timbuck2themoon 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What about apartments where they are in a dense environment? That'd be a complete waste. Should be a locale law at most.

We should be incentivizing more than just ev cars- like maybe less cars in general.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Sure, I guess ports per parking space would be better. Make sure there's at least some percentage of parking that's available to charge EVs. If your complex doesn't provide parking then it's not required.

Making it local only allows for perverse incentives to screw over people in areas where landowners have more control (which is most places).