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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Is this some weird free speech thing?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Nah, it's the 5th Amendment. The right against self incrimination. You can't be forced to testify against yourself.

Basically, I can't put you on the stand in the court room and be like, "did you do it?"

You're always aloud to just stay silent and make the prosecution have to prove their case without your help.

But they are allowed to search you physically and take any physical things they want as evidence, be it a ring of keys or your fingerprint.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

To add onto that, it doesn't prevent them from breaking into a phone or safe. If they have probable cause or a warrant to search either, they have the legal right to search them. Whether they choose to search them or not given this probable cause depends on the crime being investigated, the difficulty of successfully obtaining the contents, and overall desire to solve the crime/fuck with you. They probably aren't drilling out a huge safe for a jaywalking case. For a murder case, they are probably leaving you with a broken and useless safe and all the contents confiscated.

[–] CancerMancer 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Note that in many jurisdictions you must invoke your right of silence. Other countries often have similar laws and requirements too.

[–] starman2112 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It's also highly dependent on how incredibly racist the judge and cops are. Warren Demesme had his 5th amendment rights taken away from him because he demanded, quote, "a lawyer, dawg." The Louisiana supreme court, who I'm legally not allowed to voice my opinions on, pretended that this was in some way ambiguous, and so his statements made after this clear demand for a lawyer could still be used against him in court.

[–] TornadoRex 16 points 4 months ago

I think it’s a fifth amendment thing about not having to incriminate yourself.