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[–] [email protected] 103 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

I think it's a better name. My only issue is that it is an even better name for what happened in Haiti, where the enslaved rose up, defeated their masters, got revenge, and formed a nation.

I wish the nation was more of a success today, but it should still be celebrated as a victory for humanity.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I wish the nation was more of a success today

Me too. You can mostly thank the US and especially France for that tbh. They both extorted Haiti for a debt of lost "property" owed to France. And by "property" I mean formerly enslaved human beings! That shit went on for 122 years and the first annual payment "owed" was of SIX TIMES the annual revenue of Haiti! 🤬

Wikipedia article

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Personally I'd rather "The Slaver's Treason"

Don't even dignify it with calling it a war, it was an act of treason and ought be looked at as nothing more than a national betrayal made in the name of paranoid slave oligarchs

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Clarify which of the two you're talking about at the start of your post. The post you're replying to is mostly discussing Haiti and your comment made be do a double-take.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago

Haiti would be better called 'the slave revolution'

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It isn't like there aren't multiple wars referred to as civil wars.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Very true, which is why I made sure to clarify in my title. It's an arrogant American thing to call it the civil war... although I suppose the English say the same thing about one of their many civil wars.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Wouldn’t every country refer to the civil war that happened in their country as the civil war. Assuming that they only had one … we’ve had a few in the UK so they have their own names.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

As far as I know Switzerland only had one and we call it the Sonderbund war

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Only if you want to pretend it was the only civil war in the world.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

Not really. I refer to our shed as the shed. It’s obviously not the only shed in the world.

People tend to use the whatever when there is one whatever that is obviously more relevant to the conversation than the others.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I genuinely had to check Wikipedia to remind myself which civil war we call the civil war. It’s the Roundheads apparently, and even that’s split into the civil war I, II and III. Ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

And Haiti is still paying for it today :(