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Its clearly not better than doctors at diagnosing things. But if the system providing medical aid are worse than AI help, then the large scale impression would be that AI is better, even when it isn't better than a well-trained doctor giving proper attendance to a patient.

Well, yes, that's my point, sort of. I'm pointing out that it's never really black and white in that way, so his proposal of opposites isn't really that good.

Thanks. That's some tasty info, gonna need this when forging my own forks in the post-apocalyptic nightmare hellscape we're going to enter in the next few decades.

Decades obviously I won't have even gave a downloaded Wikipedia, I'll just go by drunk memories. And thus this will be there somewhere.

Words have meanings. What is it you think I'm "soapboxing" here? By that logic, you could just dismiss literally anything online. "You just want a soapbox, so I'm not gonna answer your EXTREMELY VALID QUESTIONS THAT YOU GAVE AS AN ANSWER TO A POST ON A FORUM.

Alright, "buddy", be a hypocrite. I do care for the world, because hypocrites make the world suffer, but I don't care about you personally. I just care that your personal ego and fears are in the way of a good world we could have.

You're defending a view... without being able to defend it in any way or without answering any of the questions put to you. The topic of this thread is "is being Christian compatible with being trans", but you refuse to talk about it.

No, I never said I was in a debate. Did I?

argumentum

You use words you don't understand? (That's a rhetorical question, I can see you do.)

"Dogma", "sacrament"? It's all Greek to me...

Name one “Christian value” which you can and should take from Christianity. And that is specific to it. Not like “Christianity teaches us that you shouldn’t kill everyone you see on sight” like the golden rule I mentioned earlier.

No.

A Christian value.

Go ahead.

I’ll wait.

No, you just keep defending this bullshit and then you wonder why we have to go through wars and shit.

Stand up and call monotheism the cancer it is. There’s nothing inherently good in it. Nothing. But there is a lot of inherently bad things, like dogma, and straight up anti-LGBT values.

Alright, sure, "the topic of this thread, which you're defending, is", does that make you feel better, and can you now you start answering, or is just that you're arguing in such bad faith you have zero intention of answering ANYTHING?

"Soapbox".

Again, I'm not an atheist, buddy. I've simply asked very simple questions, like "please elaborate on what you think 'Christian values' means" which you keep avoiding, because you can't define it. Because it's all hypocrisy and not a genuinely held belief. Which just proves what utter bullshit it is.

Monotheism is cancer, yet you keep defending it.

edit oh and why would I give two fucks about who you block?

Deflecting again? Wow. So surprised. You can't answer anything or define anything.

Yet you imagine you're in a "debate"? Thanks for the laughs.

What I've been telling you is that you're wrong.

Name one "Christian value" which you can and should take from Christianity. And that is specific to it. Not like "Christianity teaches us that you shouldn't kill everyone you see on sight" like the golden rule I mentioned earlier.

No.

A Christian value.

Go ahead.

I'll wait.

No, you just keep defending this bullshit and then you wonder why we have to go through wars and shit.

Stand up and call monotheism the cancer it is. There's nothing inherently good in it. Nothing. But there is a lot of inherently bad things, like dogma, and straight up anti-LGBT values.

a failure of power, it's a failure of language.

And what is scripture made out of again? God .. or language?

You're really gonna make me go through all the tedious examples of how illogical monotheism is? No thanks.

Yes I have read the Bible

The whole Bible, not just bits which you found through googling it? The actual, whole book, from cover to cover?

I was Baptised in my early 20s

You read the whole Bible before deciding everything in it is true and thats definitely possible, despite there being sentences like "God can create triangles with angles of ≠ 3?"

Alright, well, you do you m8.

Rapes happen in hospitals and schools - does that mean proponents of healthcare and education are defending

If you show me a healthcare system that has as much systemic rape in it that Catholicism does, I'll show you a healthcare system which I criticise and advocate to reform.

If you had a criminal court case, and you only had one witness, it would be less reliable than one with two witnesses.

I'm sorry but I'm not smoking crack and can't keep up with you.

If you had one witness with red paint on their face, saying "a guy threw red paint on my face", and then you went on to lool for the guy mentioned, and found him, with an empty bucket of red paint and red paint all over his hands, it would be more believable than having a two guys — one with blue paint on him and one with yellow paint on him — saying "a guy threw red paint on us", especially when you then don't find any red paint anywhere, and even the local stores say they don't even recall ever seeing any.

I don't care for your personal history, it had absolutely nothing to do with Christianity, which is the topic of the thread.

Monotheism is bad and religious people, monotheists especially, are usually dragged into progressive values despite their resistance to them.

It's beyond insane how much of the world you're having to ignore just to keep identifying as a Christian despite not believing in single tenet of the religion.

So I remind you of the argument I said before; it genuinely wouldn't make any rhetorical difference what religion you changed into this conversation for Christianity. You ask whether Christianity is compatible with being trans, but then you refuse to say what notion of being Christian is.

So I'm to just take it that you just like to think your Christian, despite deriving all your personal moral from the world, like people do?

You can't name what these "Christian values" are that you're asking about. Yet you insist that you have them.

Wtf?

I need to verify them actually being contradictions to answer your comment

That would require actually reading the Bible. Have you? I have. As I told the other person, I've had a Christian confirmation when I was 15.

don't see how other self professed monotheists raping little boys disproves monotheism

Disproves? As in, we're going to argue whether a single God actually exists? Don't be childish.

My proof is that the the Bible isn't the word of God is the Bible itself.

Eventually God can't make a triangle which doesn't have three angles. Because then it wouldn't be a triangle, see? You can go ahead and start looking into those contradictions, although I assume that if you actually do, that will be the most Bible you've ever actually read.

would love nothing more than to see these people drowned with a millstone... Although that's probably too kind to them.

Yet you defend the system which makes it possible in the first place, became the act of rape is so disconnected from you supporting Christianity that you think it's morally alright to still "believe" despite the massive and SYSTEMIC raping of children the Catholic Church did.

It doesn't matter what hour Jesus died in. It matters that there's contravening accounts. If there's a contradiction, both obviously can not be correct and thus the Bible can not be the infallible word of God, despite claiming so.

Sent "you"?

No, I posted one, and no I'm not saying that's the reason.

You're saying that the Bible being literally filled with contradictions doesn't matter, and you base that on there being too many contradictions to answer in a Lemmy comment.

If you were arguing in good faith, you could arbitrarily pick some and show why they're not actually contradictions. But you can't. You can't do it to a single one, let alone all of them.

And despite that, despite whatever, there is NOTHING that you would accept as proof of Christianity and monotheism being bad.

Literally nothing.

It doesn't matter that historically monotheism is obviously violent and crazy, it doesn't matter that the Catholic Church has been systematically raping little boys for God knows how long, NONE OF IT MATTERS TO YOU.

You're literally arguing in bad faith. Yet you pretend as if naming a fallacy makes you right. Then you get even more ashamed when I point out how nerdy and wrong it is to larp a philosopher by answering with a pretentious latin form of a fallacy. I point it out with a pretentious Latin form for the fallacy you used. Then you still refuse to actually produce any rhetoric.

Like I said, there is NOTHING that would change your mind in this. The ultimate bad faith.