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That's good to know. I like their phones, I would love to have one of the ones with an IR camera, but their support has never been great.

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Quality is good, they're are absolute shit for updates in either Android version or security updates.

They are usually one Android version behind current, and you probably are not getting any update.

The 33 is on Android 14, 34 is Android 15. (Maybe they're getting better)

They use Mediatek so you are not getting custom ROM support

It didn't work out for the leaded gas and Freon guy

In 1940, at the age of 51, Midgley contracted polio and was left severely disabled. He devised an elaborate system of ropes and pulleys to lift himself out of bed. On November 2, 1944, at the age of 55, he was found dead at his home in Worthington, Ohio. He had been killed by his own device after he became entangled in it and died of strangulation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Midgley_Jr.

The mashable report is pretty much just a repost of the Verge article, which they cite.

https://www.theverge.com/command-line-newsletter/637083/elon-musk-reddit-ceo-content-moderation

I'm fine with having my comments downvoted, I find it strange that people downvote Wikipedia articles without saying why.

You left out the two most important types, Passenger and Freight

https://www.404media.co/when-your-threat-model-is-being-a-moron-signal/

This is all, of course, a very long way of saying that there is no messaging app that can protect you if you are wildly careless, or more generally an idiot.

Off topic, but where are there often downvotes to Wikipedia articles without any rebuttal?

If you disagree that's fine, but it is not productive to conversation to downvote and say nothing.

I have posted quite a few links in this community, I do so because I find them interesting, not because I endorse the subject matter, or viewpoint. Many of them receive downvotes. I may be friendly to the subject, I may not.

I recently posted about Encyclopedia Dramatica, they are an important part of web history in and of themselves, but also if you look through the Wikipedia edits there have been times when Wikipedia was extremely hostile to that site. That adds more to it and reflects on the Wikipedia community itself. That is interesting to me. Maybe it is not to you, downvotes without a comment make me think you are lazy at best.

That one? Or this one?

They only do in certain cases, it's called Extraterritorial Jurisdiction. Note that the U.S. is not the only country that recognizes Extraterritorial Jurisdiction.

Wikipedia entry here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraterritorial_jurisdiction

Interesting law blog post (dealing mostly with RICO issues, organized crime) here https://fmamlaw.com/when-can-the-u-s-government-prosecute-someone-for-acts-abroad/