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Title. I'm not the best with privacy... But wanted to upload a picture of my pupper. Thanks!

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[–] ted 87 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Exif data is stripped when uploading to Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 years ago (2 children)

But you never know (unless you run your own instance) if your instance has been modified to record it somewhere before it is removed.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

But it is an open source project and the developers views are strongly in favor of privacy, so yeah you can self host it or check the source code. But I think it's safe to assume they didn't program it like that.

Note that people who host an instance can theoretically change it, but still I wouldn't worry it'll actually happen.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Instance admins are pulling the code down and implementing it in their server. They could easily slip in some malicious backend code and there would be no way to verify it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Of course, I said that too. And unless you self host yourself you have to trust the instance you're using. But the question itself was more about lemmy in general, and most people just deploy the docker image or something.

Also, I don't believe that, assuming an average person host an instance, the host will want some random people metadata from photos. It's not big corps that process every bit of data they get.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Which is good to be aware of, but I don't think they'd want your image exif data.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Rule #1 in internet privacy: don't assume best intentions of anyone. Just because it is open source does not mean whoever hosts the instance didn't modify the source.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Good point. I'm just now getting to this thread to see all the replies, so I bet I'll find some answers on how to do it via my android

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But it is an open source project and the developers views are strongly in favor of privacy, so yeah you can self host it or check the source code. But I think it's safe to assume they didn't program it like that.

Note that people who host an instance theoretically change it, but still I wouldn't worry it'll actually happen.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Depends on how much you trust your instance admins.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Isn't this comment deleted for you too? (I replied twice by mistake)

Anyway, yeah I completely agree. But as I replayed to a user at my other reply:

I don’t believe that, assuming an average person host an instance, the host will want some random people metadata from photos. It’s not big corps that process every bit of data they get.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No, it's not deleted for me. I had the same problem as you. I replied twice, immediately deleted one, then had people responding to both and telling me that I replied twice.

It's really scary that deleting comments doesn't work 100% of the time. And it's ironic, given the topic of this discussion is privacy. Not being able to guarantee that your comments can be deleted 100% is a huge privacy concern. It might even be illegal in Europe, but idk.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The deleted comments don't get deleted too tho. The last edit is saved on the server anyways, so if you really want to delete something, edit it first and then delete it.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] ted 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes, big platforms have stripped this for years. It is in their best interest to do so.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Well... Ever since I left reddit I'm not just lurking around. I feel compelled to participate as a fuck you to reddit. Didn't know they did that

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Apologies on the delay!!! Work happens. Good to know that is covered.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)
[–] ted 5 points 2 years ago

Just guessing based on this open issue, kbin has not done this yet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I looked at kbin before going with lemmy... So not sure what kbin can do

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Look at who you responded to. It's one of the usernames you pinged. Just saying πŸ™‚

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I think that's a kbin thing, where any time you reply to a comment, your comment includes an @ to that comment's author. I think the only one they intended to "ping" was butterface

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not a kbin thing… might be an extension though. I’m on kbin and no automatic mention was added to the top of this comment when I replied to you.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (5 children)

It's a setting (default off) called Add mention tags in entries under the "Writing" subsection.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Buttercheeks!

[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Great question, but also better to remove it yourself just for the peace of mind.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How do I remove Metadata from my pictures?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

On windows, if you check the properties of the file, there’s a button to remove metadata.

On iPhone, if you go into your photos and drag a photo up, you can click β€œadjust” and remove or edit the location and time/date (it will still have camera data).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thanks. How would I do it on an Android phone?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I'm on this boat with ya brotherman

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Yep, safest route is to be cautious and do it yourself if it is enough of a concern.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago

Just to be sure you should always remove information, you don't want on the internet, by yourself.

I always have most metadata storage disabled on my smartphone. Good way to prevent leaking of a location stored in images.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Follow-up question: how one removes the metadata from a picture or archive ?

[–] Steamymoomilk 11 points 2 years ago

Using tools like meta data cleaner from flathub and other tools have the feature built in. Also like with main social media it does it when uploaded

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Take on step further and also disable capturing location from the camera app. But also additionally remove metadata before uploading.

BTW we are waiting for your pupper's picture OP.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I would suggest getting to the root of the issue and disable it on your camera app.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

On to look at the Google app to see if there are settings for it

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If sharing from iOS, you can chose to strip the information when sharing.

The language on the toggle however suggests the metadata is only shared when using AirDrop.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

On Android, you can use Scrambled EXIF or Image Pipe through the share menu, or through file selection.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

That's sweet; now I just need to remember to use it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm not sure anyone would want to steal your butter.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'd disable attaching metadata to pictures in your phone setting in the first place, especially location.

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