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[-] [email protected] 93 points 7 months ago

"Why the hell wasn't I told about this place?"

"Two words Mr. President, 'plausible deniability.'"

[-] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago

First thing I thought of too. Love that movie.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

It's just so...entertainy

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[-] [email protected] 85 points 7 months ago

Area 51 is real. Don't know if there's any aliens there, but I'm betting not.

[-] [email protected] 56 points 7 months ago

The Roswell Incident was declassified as well. It was a weather balloon with a microphone attachment that was meant to listen to a certain layer of the atmosphere where nukes are loudest. I don't have the link as I'm on mobile.

I don't think the government would deny any extraterrestrial claims by the news during the cold war because it would scare the commies shitless if they thought the United States had alien technology.

[-] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago

The US government has been caught spreading alien conspiracy theories. They were the ones supplying Paul Bennewitz with his bogus info to muddy the waters on the stealth craft they were working on at the time.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

If I remember the story correctly the balloon was, as you said, to detect nuke detonations. When it crashed the government lied because they didn't want anyone to know what they were up to.

That method of detection wasn't very effective anyway, we figured out much more reliable means of detecting nuclear explosions right on the ground using resonance, but it was pretty obvious the government was lying, so of course peoples imaginations went wild with conspiracies and the ufo thing was born.

It was (and still is) a great thing for the US government, it deflects from what's really going on and keeps the idiots busy chasing bullshit, and the enemies guessing as to what kind of tech they may really have. Toss them a bone once in awhile to keep the frenzy going and you have a reliable means of obfuscation for little to no effort.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Roswell was actually multiple incidents remembered incorrectly iirc

https://open.spotify.com/episode/7droUsVVRsNC3hCXQvd5ph?si=qRPRLKaaQWywq95fubt63Q

Good pod on the topic

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

Pretty sure they just work on go-fast shit

[-] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

They used to. They moved that to a different base. 51 is little more than a convenient decoy for lookyloos now.

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[-] [email protected] 60 points 7 months ago

It was above his security level.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago

This I can absolutely believe. You really think the entrenched MICC is going to give him access?

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

Correct, Truman was not allowed to know about the Manhattan project until it was already viable and needed to be known.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

Truman became president on April,12 1945. He was given a full briefing on the Manhattan project on April 24,1945. That doesn't seem like he was being kept in the dark.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

It was one of the most important and costly projects of the war, 12 days is a lifetime during a war quite literally. That's also ignoring the fact that the vice president was kept in the dark until after FDR died and Truman took office.

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[-] [email protected] 31 points 7 months ago

They didn't trust him so they never told him.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

This. I bet half of his security briefings were just bullshit to make him feel important.

[-] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago

On the bright side, this also disproves all the Qanon shit

[-] [email protected] 31 points 7 months ago

Did it need it?

At least alien life is a statistical near certainty. Intelligence, FTL, and a general willingness to be sneaky assholes about existing, not so much, but it's probably somewhere out there, compared to a prophet that makes 100 predictions and gets 1 right.

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[-] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago

There never were aliens at Area 51.

It was all just a ruse to cover up even more dark shit.

Think of things banned by the Geneva convention, like biological weapons, torture techniques, war crimes, ...

Making people think it is aliens makes it seem innocent by comparison.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago

torture techniques, war crimes,

Wouldn't that be Guantanamo Bay?

The reason that people belived it was aliens is that people are stupid. Area 51 was a secret but not so much anymore. Now we know it was useful for secret projects like A-12. It's a convenient place to do test flights of secret shit.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago

The same Trump who didn't read intelligence briefings? They probably handed him one on day one that explained aliens and Area 51 are all real and he used it to wipe burger grease off his mouth while he was writing a Tweet with his other hand in all caps.

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[-] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Woah, I forgot about least I could do. I used to read that all the time In high school.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Penny arcade is apparently also around, I saw something about them a couple months ago. And questionable content. Can't say I like the way any of their art styles developed but I'm impressed they kept any sort of readership for this long.

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[-] andrew_bidlaw 18 points 7 months ago

Aliens are glad to see you upvoting this meme.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Well - didn't he try? If I am not wrong - the latest string of UFO / UAP reports started during the Trump presidency. I wouldn't be surprised if Trump was the one who asked the Pentagon to "show the people the aliens" - in hopes that it will change the nations focus from his own mental or moral disabilities. And the Pentagon has obliged - and showed people the aliens in all their glory. 👽

The result is that now we know much more about various optical illusions that happen in military binoculars, telescopes and such - than we did ever before.

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