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Sometimes I'm at the doctor's office, at the library, or even at the grocery store and see an unused power outlet. My phone is dying. I feel weird plugging in, but I feel even weirder asking for permission.

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You could probably just skip the whole anxiety issue by buying a portable battery and using that whenever you're low. If your phone is fully charged at the start of the day and you burn through the whole battery and a mid range portable battery you're using your phone quite excessively and may need to figure something more reliable out.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah this is a great tip, you can get some that can fast charge your phone and plug directly into the wall. You can use it as a normal phone charger and then unplug it and bring it with you for 10,000mAh on the go

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I bought a 20,000mAh portable battery. My partner hogged it from day 1, so I ordered another straight away.

Honestly a big battery is so liberating.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Phones charging use such little power I'd really be surprised if anyone cared. It really depends on the place. A library I would have no issue plugging in anything without asking. I can't say I've ever been at the doctors and considered charging my phone though I may ask out of courtesy if I did simply because I like my doctor. Overall I'd say it wouldn't be a big deal either way.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They use a few cents (in US dollars) a year.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

A 2000 mAh battery that is charging at 3.7V for one hour per day uses 2.5kWh of energy per year. About $.50 at ~$.20/kWh. That’s pretty remarkable!

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If it's a public place and you have legitimate business starting there for a while, I don't see any issue with it. Eg. Doctors waiting room and you have an appointment, restaurant and you're dining there, etc.

If it's someone's private home I'd ask first.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some places you're not supposed to plug anything in unless it's tested and tagged. Unlikely to be an issue in a public area, but if you're somewhere that the power getting tripped would be a safety issue then best to ask first.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Are you thinking of the ICU too?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A business's insurance might require all electronic devices to be tested before being plugged in though.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

Then those outlets shouldn't be unlocked

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

Something small like that, you're fine. They wouldn't really care, or even notice the bill.

The problem comes if you either start unplugging devices to plug in your phone, or you plug in such a ridiculously large load that you start tripping breakers, but that comes more with space heater, or car charging territory.

Phones are perfectly fine, and in some places, like the library, that is what they're meant for, to let people charge their phones or laptops while they work.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t think it matters with a phone/laptop or other small device.

If you plugged in a Tessy that might make some people unhappy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Flashback to when my sister in law had an electric car and felt compelled to plug it in at my place everytime she visited.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Naw, it was a Bolt.

~sorry. I'l leave now~

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

I don't think it matters

[–] Sunspear 16 points 1 year ago

Libraries welcome you to do it! So definitely don’t feel weird there.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Imho, it’s a bit like a water fountain. You wouldn’t ask before filling up your bottle. In both cases you as an individual are costing the business pennys.

The only place you mentioned that I personally wouldn’t do it is a store, but that’s mostly because to charge your phone you kinda have to sit by the outlet and I personally see stores as places of movement where hanging out is discouraged. You are supposed to buy something and leave.

But for doctors offices, you’re probably fine, and libraries you 100% all g.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not rude at all. I wouldn't even ask for a phone charge.

Just don't plug your giant bitcoin miner in.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

rolls huge server rack filled with GPUs into the doctor's office

"Yo doc, mind if I plug in for a bit?"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Well, seeing as you asked so nicely.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Going to need a little more power, do you have a 50Amp outlet in the back?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Will you drink a can of Coke™ lying around a stranger's house without asking? No? Then, ask for permission as a matter of etiquette unless there are signs specifically saying it is ok to use them.

[–] Soylentcolaispeople 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well if they had some on tap piped into each wall of their house I would be pretty comfortable with filling up a bottle.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Aka a water fountain lmao.

Would you fill up your bottle at the fountain, then you should be able to juice up your phone.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Big difference to a random coke and a flow of constant power that literally costs less than a cent to charge a phone.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yep, super easy to ask. "Hey, is it cool if I charge my phone here while I wait?" I've never had anybody tell me "no". Assuming you're not also asking for a cable or something, I don't think most people mind at all.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Dr office, no in the waiting room, yes in the exam room. Library, no. Grocery store, yes. Any more?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Airport? Shopping mall? Restaurant? Parking lot? Stadium? Your friend's house? The office? Classroom? Museum? Cinema?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

BDSM parlor.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, maybe, yes, no, no, yes unless you know better, no, depends how old you are, maybe, no so long as its off/silent.

Also, I'll note in case anyone forgot, the original question was not "can you?", but "is it rude?" Which are two different things.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Edit: I got it backwards, meaning these are what I'd consider acceptable places to charge your phone.

Airport? Yeah but use a no-data charging cable.

Mall? I don't see why anyone would care about that.

Restaurant? If it's under your table or very close by.

Parking lot? Do they have outlets?

Stadium? Where would they be charging it at a stadium, maybe where the bathrooms and concessions are? If it's out of the way I don't think that would bother anyone.

Your friends house? Yeah unless they're running an off-the-grid setup or something.

The office? Yes fuck the man.

Classroom? I assume they can charge it somewhere while in class, I've been out of there for a while though.

Museum? Eh, feel like it can wait.

Cinema? No.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I've definitely plugged in the exam room, they leave you to wait for 10-15 minutes I can get 30-50% charge while waiting.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

From a (US) financial perspective, a phone charger takes about 5 watts of electricity. At $0.010/kWh that's $0.0005/hr (or ¢0.05/hr) of charging. This is utterly negligible.

For reference, a worker at the federal minimum wage of $7.25/hr would be paid that much after 0.25 seconds of working. It's not even worth paying an employee to tell you to not plug in, which would probably take at least 15 seconds.

Naturally, some businesses may want to discourage people from loitering, but more often than not, they probably want your business (library, grocery store, coffee shop &c) or understand that reality happens.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It depends on the charger. Fast charging can pull around 20W (1 second of minimum wage worker time, so maybe worth it if they ask very quickly), and PD allows for wattages over 100W, which would cost 1 cent per hour or more, though you'd still leave on your own long before then because your device will be charged.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't bother asking if it's a 15 min charge for your phone. If you are there for 3 hours, then maybe consider asking.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

My preference would be to ask for permission.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

If you don't have to reach or lean over someone, sure. Obviously if you do that would require saying 'excuse me...' or asking them to plug it in for you. An open outlet, anyway, is always fair game. If someone needs to use it after you start... they can say something.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I had a problem like this the other day. I needed to vacuum out my car and there is no good outlet near it where I park at my apartment building. Went to the hand wash to wash my car, then on the outside of the building there was a random outlet on the wall, no idea why it was there. I thought about plugging my vacuum in that I had in my trunk, but I felt too weird about it..

On another note, I've totally used outlets in the hospital waiting area when I've been there for hours. I don't feel weird about that for whatever reason. But we don't pay for Healthcare here so maybe that has something to do with it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

context is important. in a waiting area or lounge, they should be okay with it- especially if it's the kind of place you'll be waiting for hours.

visiting your inlaws? people are weird.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I don't think it's that big of a deal specially if you are just charging your phone.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

All the examples you gave sound like it’s not a problem just plugging it in 5 minutes or so. But if it makes you feel uncomfortable or self-conscious, a power bank might be the solution to your problems.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I've literally moved tables in doctors offices to plug my phone in and no one's ever said anything. The library those outlets are yours. Charge away.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

depends on what it is and where you're connecting it/who pays the power bill

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Carry a power strip and you'll never have to worry. I learned that in the Marines.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the true LPT.

If you carry a small splitter, then you don't have to try and find an empty outlet at airports and such. Unplug, split, Plug.

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