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[–] [email protected] 41 points 11 months ago (4 children)

So they now have two separate AI chatbots named Copilot now? Obviously GitHub Copilot is focused on coding, but this one seems like it is not. Both are owned by Microsoft. Both are called Copilot. Both are AI chatbots.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Coming from the Company that brought you "Visual Studio" and "Visual Studio Code" and called the followup of ".NET Framework" just ".NET". Sometimes I think they want their products to be hard to search.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago

Or the Xbox, Xbox 360, Xbox One, Xbox One X/S, Xbox Series X/S.

Or Windows 98, Me, 2000, XP, Vista, 7, 8, 10, 11.

Someone at Microsoft just really wants people to know that naming is hard. I am pretty sure they're intentionally confusing customers so they only know what the current product is.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Windows subsystem for Linux (WSL) which is Linux as a subsystem of Windows.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I still mess up launching it on my work Mac. Apparently "Code" works but "VSCode" doesn't, and everybody calls it "VSCode" where I work.

I'm usually a ViM person, but I gave it a go when helping out with an unfamiliar project.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

There is an open source version of vscode without all the MS telemetry stuff, it's called VSCodium or just Code. Although I wouldn't be surprised if normal VScode also starts with "code" instead of "vscode"

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Visual_Studio_Code

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Oh there's more. There's also 365 Copilot and Windows Copilot.

Not confusing at all.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And there is Windows 365, and Microsoft 365.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Microsoft 365 is the new name for Office 365

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Soon they will just rename everything to Copilot.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Microsoft Defender: You must be new.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

I think they do this intentionally because their users are so bad at computers, they will want "copilot" everywhere, and think of it as intellisense (microsofts word for auto completion).

I've seen in corporations that clueless managers even go as far as thinking Microsoft stuff is reliable and trustable and other alternatives are not. Marketing works.

[–] huskypenguin 34 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How does it compete with chat gpt? It is chat gpt.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Just like how edge competes with chrome, I suppose.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Common marketing strategy.

If you can pit your products against each other, it gives the illusion of choice. The many flavors of toothpaste for example, while being owned by one company.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

My favorites are Google Maps and Waze, and PayPal and Venmo.

[–] WindowsEnjoyer 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Except MS has 70℅ of OpenAI shares. Sounds like MS being athlette - competing with itself lol. 😅

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

You're right, that's even dumber

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] WindowsEnjoyer 1 points 11 months ago

Maybe something has changed. I've heard about 70% some time ago ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

They also locked it behind Edge or the official "Bing app" on mobile. You can no longer just try out Bing Chat from the browser.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Last time I hit that wall on Firefox, changing my user agent worked wonders. Don’t tell anyone I told you this. ;)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Works fine in Chrome here?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Microsoft and renaming things for no reason, name a better duo

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Google and killed projects.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Not to cause confusion, Microsoft swears — despite the fact that the company now has roughly a dozen products that share the Copilot brand.

“Renaming ‘Bing Chat Enterprise’ to ‘Copilot’ reflects our vision to create a unified Copilot experience for consumer and commercial customers,” Caitlin Roulston, director of communications at Microsoft, told TechCrunch via email.

Starting December 1, users who sign into Bing with a corporate account — a Microsoft Entra ID, to be precise — will receive the benefit of “commercial data protection” while using Copilot in Bing.

“Copilot will update the commercial terms and conditions on December 1 to reflect that it’s a generally available product from Microsoft,” she added.

“As part of this, it will inherit Microsoft’s universal license terms for online services … Over time, Microsoft will expand eligibility of Copilot with commercial data protection to even more Entra ID users at no additional cost.”

Copilot is now accessible in Windows in addition to Copilot.Microsoft.com and Bing, shipping in range of Microsoft’s enterprise subscription plans — Microsoft 365 E, E5, Business Premium and Business Standard — at no additional cost.


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[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Microsoft Entra ID

These fuckers rebranded the Azure ID and the Microsoft account and the Microsoft/Office 365 account into this.

It's okay if you release a new product to call it something else but for the love of god stop renaming things for no reason.