It's true. : risa

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 9 months ago (1 children)

She's even more badass in the books.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Truth. I thought the show turned Naomi and Holden into twats but they did a pretty good job with Chrisjen. I’m still mad about the Arjun bamboozle. Arjun 1 is best Arjun.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah they chose weird edges to soften. Make Amos less intimidating and batshit? No sir, my boy is supposed to be a crayon eater restrained just barely by Naomi, Holden or his love for children.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Last man standing

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

That's what we call in the industry "foreshadowing".

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I feel like most of it comes from the lack of forced perspective in the show. You never really see stuff from certain characters angles like you do in the book.

The show could only show a generic third person perspective, you never really got holdens insights from the chapters from his perspective, or Naomi’s from hers. So they kinda blurred together in the show I found.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

This is a good point. We never get that internal monologue from Holden like in the books. In the first season, at least, I feel Ike they stripped out that key component from Holden’s personality where he would talk before he would fight.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

~~Brian George~~ Dr Bashir's dad is a gem. I wish he had stayed as Arjun. That new guy felt so off.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago

Yeah, I'm almost 40 and I wanna be Avasarala when I grow up

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

I chose a deeper cut Expanse reference, but in truth I'm Avasarala in public, Naomi in my heart

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 9 months ago (3 children)

She is pretty much the best character on the show by virtue of being the best cast actor. Wow what a good choice. I give a close second to Amos.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago

Also Drummer

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Thomas Jane was also fantastic. Same with Jared Harris. Shame they couldn't secure him for later appearances, his character is great and he did the belta accent so well.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Jared Harris is great in everything.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

He really is. He was great as Moriarty opposite Robert Downey jr., and he killed it as Valery Legasov in Chernobyl.

EDIT: He also had a short bit in a show called "Carnival Row", I'd almost forgotten.

[–] funkless_eck 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

interesting. I haven't engaged in any online dialog about the expanse so maybe this is a super unpopular opinion but I felt the actor seemed really uncomfortable with the swearing and didn't start off as that kind of character and just weirdly changed one episode

Amos on the other hand was incredible. He, Drummer, Draper and Miller really carried that show.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

If you watch interviews with the actress she's definitely not uncomfortable with swearing.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I like how every modern Star Trek show just ignores the silly idea that everyone has given up swearing in the 23rd and 24th century.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah, but that was said in a movie where they could potentially have sweared as much as they wanted to. Or at least acknowledged that 'dumbass' wouldn't be some shocking thing to a guy from the future.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Yeah, it's like the transporters. They were originally made due to the limitations of making a TV show (budget didn't allow a landing sequence every episode) but they've become an established part of the universe now.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I laughed out loud when Spock went "OH F...." and then they cut to the title in STNW.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

My favorite instance of swearing is in one of the TNG movies (can't remember which one cuz it's been forever) when the Enterprise is going down and Data looks up at the viewscreen and the land is coming up fast and he just shouts "Oh shiiiiiit!"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I like the old shows more because everyone acts appropriately to their rank and station. In the new shows a captain can go like "fuck this ima go punch someone and act super emotional and irrational" because that's what a star fleet captain or anyone star fleet would actually do.

Right. And nobody cares because he's the best man for the job for some reason.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You can hear O'Brien cuss up a storm under his breath if you turn your volume up really loud

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not falling for that Kai Winn jumpscare again...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

We need an episode of Celebrity Deathmatch for Delores Umbridge vs Kai Winn

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The lack of swearing wasn’t originally part of the "utopian ideal", it was in fact censorship from the broadcasters.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The universal translator autocorrect used to be turned up to high. Probably for the best.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Now they just have a universal bleeper, at least on the Cerritos

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, you've kinda just gotta suspend your disbelief. I'm going back and watching House for the first time since it ended, and it is RIDICULOUS how much these characters don't swear at each other.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago

Best actress for the roll

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)

She'd make a formidable Badmiral. Maybe they can get her for an episode of SNW

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Isn't she Bashir's mother?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

She was Commodore Paris in Star Trek Beyond. She might be the (great?) grandmother of Tom Paris.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

She is also a friend of Tali's dad in Mass Effect. Tali calls her Auntie Raan.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

I looked it up. No, but Arjun is his dad!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Not as far as I know

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago (4 children)

She sounds like it hurts to talk

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago

So you know she means it.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago

That's what happens when you smoke three packs a day.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

She sounds like she came out of the womb actively smoking. And I love her for it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

idgaf

I totally agree tho

She's a girlboss though

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

This feels like something that could be brought up on Lower Decks.

Risa