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[–] [email protected] 66 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like they unified against you fairly well.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I've only experienced that from them since I've known them. Not one wants a good faith discussion until you grovel to their fundamentalist tripe. Unity to them means blindly following their half-understood theories of centuries-dead men, and anyone who questions a lick of it gets the 4chan swarm treatment.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 9 months ago (49 children)

OP literally did not attempt to have any discussion of any kind, and explicitly said they had no interest in doing so

that's the definition of "not in good faith" homie

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 9 months ago (2 children)

what part of db0's crosspost was calling for good faith discussion? Did you look at it? https://lemmy.ml/comment/5783449

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago (3 children)

You're a dweeb and should quit posting.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 9 months ago (2 children)

how can you seriously call anybody a smuglord in that convo except you

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 9 months ago (4 children)

does the work of the feds by intentionally seeding distrust between leftists

gets called a fed by leftists

"time to fill my diaper about it!"

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 9 months ago

This is so tedious

[–] [email protected] 39 points 9 months ago

You, having posting incendiary divisive shit on purpose and pretending to be shocked at the response it got:

[–] [email protected] 37 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That was the version revised to be less racist, not the initial post

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago

I'm at least pleasantly surprised they actually tried to do the bare minimum of editing it to be less racist.

Credit where it's due and all that

[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for single handily crashing the housing market by allowing millions of hexbear users to live rent free in your head.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago (30 children)

Hey so I think you're pretty rad person who's obviously investing a lot of effort in setting up cool communities and making tools to keep them safe.

I also think you got unfairly dogpiled in a pretty frustrating way.

But further, it seemed to me you were not trying to de-escalate there. I know the hexbear dogpile can be a bit ridiculous (honestly that place confuses me, I see both the absolute sanest and most unhinged posts coming out of hexbear users) but at this point you are definitely feeding the trolls.

I get that this might be fun for you, but it does use up a lot of bandwidth in the community and I worry it harms the quality of conversations we might be able to have in the future.

Once again I want to be clear that this remark comes from a place of respect, you obviously care about fostering online community and hence this last couple of days is confusing to me.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (11 children)

I appreciate your effort to be diplomatic

You might want to reconsider your idea of what they care about, though.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Calling out the smuglord emoji doesn't diminish what a smuglord you are.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago

Well it works for us on Hexbear. That's actually what I like about it, it's a nice big tent over there. Some of our greatest posters are anarchists, they were indispensable on the frontline of the posting wars that followed federation. rat-salute

[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I'm not sure I really agree with your first point, I think finding a way to find allys in all leftists would be worth it, even if it has a dark history. Things can be better.

But holy shit their reaction was intense. And the idea that their arguments were in defense of left unity was pretty silly... 99% of it was just "anarchists wrong and evil", and there is wild amounts of sectarianism going on just within hexbear that I'm sure lent energy to this.

I respect how you reacted under pressure. I really respect any admin of a website that can show that much restraint when dealing with personal attacks and people you explicitly disagree with.

But yeah the lethality of leftist infighting is maybe a topic that deserves more delicate conversations than memes.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (11 children)

anarchists wrong and evil

not only is that not what we said, but db0 actually said that about us

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Thanks for your kind words. I will admit I did get snappy towards the end of the day as I was getting tired and they had gone to straight up brigading tactics with half a dozen hexbears shitposting random replies, so there wasn't even any point to reply anymore. It had just become a classic pile on situation because I hurt their feelings.

I’m not sure I really agree with your first point, I think finding a way to find allys in all leftists would be worth it, even if it has a dark history. Things can be better.

I'm not here to stop anyone. MLs can be allies when they act like anarchists, which they tend to do when they're not in power. But you have to be cognizant who you're getting in bed with.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago (20 children)

Do you think that all ML's harbor some innate desire to just start murdering anarchists for no particular reason when given the chance or something?

This weird self-induced paranoia can't be good for you.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Just defederate then if we’re so bad you fucking dork

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I don't get it. Not saying that in a sarcastic way, I literally do not understand if this meme is for or against leftist/anarchist unity. Maybe I'm just old?

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago

i rolled my eyes at the first thread and didnt open but i wanted to leave a comment here so you have more evidence when u write about your struggle in the future

[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago

This type of pissing and moaning about a post is pathetic

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago

Slow down there, pardner. You're gonna give your dick rugburn if you keep at it so long.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago

[fart noise]

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeaj fork those guys f4om pentqbear. Nt good. Very not fun Very unfriendlt, a real dope!

Many people are saying this.

Black Mold Futures

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago (11 children)
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