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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago

It was... Once upon a time. Now those who drink coffee largely regard it as brown, burnt water.

Tim Hortons was once a magical place that lives up to the nostalgia fuel marketing that drives the franchise to this day. Every single store has actual bakers on staff who made the pastries, the coffee was genuinely fresh, and it seemed like staff were valued.

Then it got sold to the investment bankers and franchise conglomerates. It's been min/maxed to death, whittling down every cost to the bare minimum. Things taste like cardboard, and people go because it's there.

Interestingly enough, when McDonald's moved into the coffee game, they picked up the bean contract that Tim Hortons held for eons. Tim's dropped it for cost, and not an insignificant amount of people swapped over to McDonald's for their coffee.

[–] can 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

hell no

It's passable but at the bottom. It thrives on people who have been going there every day for decades since it was still good.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Used to be good, now it's brown sludge. McDonald's is better

It probably is by market share the nation's "favorite" though.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's because McDonalds bought the coffee roasting company that was formerly used by Tim's. New McDs coffee is literally original Tim's coffee.

Tim's new coffee is awful and hardly worth drinking. Same as their now-reheated-from-frozen garbage donuts.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Yup. But it still has brand recognition and most people order something like a triple triple nowadays so it's little more than liquid coffee crisp. At that point, the quality of the coffee hardly matters, and Tim Horton's is way cheaper than Starbucks.

[–] mister_newbie 2 points 1 year ago

It's similar, but not the same. You're correct about the roasting company, though: Mother Parker's. Drive past them every day on the way to work; smells great in the area.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If it was, people wouldn't be taking it with double cream, double sugar, to mask the taste.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Good point!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People who love coffee brew it themselves. They don't need to endure long lines and wait for some poorly treated minimum-wage employees to burn it for them.

I suspect coffee preferences, whether someone makes it for them or not, might be down to whether their place of work is conducive for even making coffee. Perhaps there are socioeconomic lines as well that divide people. Do most people feel the need to have their coffee made for them at a fast-food establishment?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I work on the road/various jobsites throughout the day. My first coffee is almost always one I make at home. On a long shift or a cold day, I sometimes want a second coffee, and unfortunately Tim's often the only option around.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't drink coffee myself but last I heard, Tim's had their own brand of coffee so hypothetically if somebody likes it, they can still brew it at home.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

To clarify, people who love coffee buy fresh roasted beans and grind it themselves for brewing for the best possible flavor.

Buying a kilo of any pre-ground coffee and slapping it into a drip machine is not something people who love coffee would typically do.

[–] mister_newbie 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

To clarify, people who love coffee buy fresh roasted beans and grind it themselves for brewing for the best possible flavor.

You forgot that we worship St. James (Hoffmann).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn't buy fresh roasted beans. I roasted my own.

Of course I'm a lunatic.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've done that, in an apartment with a Behmor. Great coffee, but man what a hassle.

Now I have a subscription to a local place and the coffee's always roasted within 3 days of delivery.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I had a great place to get roasted-on-premises coffee, but the guy who ran it got me interested in the process, ran a course in how to do it, and then sold the equipment to do it. I'm a nerd. Of course I nerded out and started doing it myself!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As others have said, Canadian McDonald's now has the old Tim Hortons coffee, and the new Tim Hortons coffee tastes like they brewed it with water they collected from a puddle in the parking lot.

Presumably McDonald's has different suppliers in other countries though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

We started going to MCD for coffee a couple years ago. Tried Tims maybe once a year and it still tastes like shit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

McDonald's has Tim Hortons' old supplier. They don't have the same blend, and probably not exactly the same procedure for brewing it. The McDonald's coffee is much better than Tim's ever was since at least ~2000 when I first tried it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm guessing their definition of "favourite" is judged by sales, or maybe litres sold? I don't think anyone prefers Timmies, at least not for a decade or so.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think there is a regulatory entity policing this issue.

And every real Canadian knows the best coffee in the country comes from small town Esso's.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

7/11 or bust. Seriously though, 7/11s coffee has the best gas station coffee in Canada and it's not even close.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Tim's used to be good, but they are speed running this chain into the ground. Quality is atrocious for every food item and notably the coffee, and their menu has a new desperate "hail Mary" item / category every month.

Tim's needs to either go bankrupt and get bought out by people that care, or just go away. It has no right to exist with so many better options on the market.

Hell, I'd prefer Starbucks over their crap by now, and Starbucks coffee tastes like burnt cigarette butt water.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

And don't get attached to that Hail Mary product. It'll be gone before you can remember that it existed.

My wife was quite upset when they dropped vegan sausage options twice in the span of a few years.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I never got cigarette. More notes of a dog's rancid ball sweat.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

It might have been at one point, but that was before it was bought out by a large corporation, and a bunch of "efficiencies" were implemented which changed suppliers and generally reduced the quality of the coffee and food.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I've boycotted Tim Hortons for a decade now. I think that speaks for itself.

There is nothing Canadian about it anymore, it's all an illusion to sell utter trash.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Not anymore

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Tim's is terrible.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

No, McDonald’s is our favourite coffee

It’s a Brazilian chain restaurant though so it might be their favourite

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

McDonald's coffee probably now. Which seems ridiculous, but, yeah.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I don't know anyone who prefers Tim's over other coffees, but I do know that they sell a ton of coffee.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)