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[–] [email protected] 214 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

Canada's Hundred Days. Aka the last 100 days of WW1.

Functionally, Canada won WW1 for the allies.

Being under 10% of the WW1 force, in that period they tackled defences everyone else thought impregnable and shattered them, like the Hindenburg Line, and in the process paved the way for the allied advance. They also took out a quarter of the German forces in that time.

While they did arguably use proto-blitzkrieg tactics of using lots of machine guns, and then also using vehicles to move troops even quicker while using said machine guns, one of the biggest factors was a prodigious use of chemical weapons.

To the point that in the interwar period, Canada had the largest capacity and stores of chemical weapons. During WW2, said stockpile is one of the reasons Hitler refused to use chemical weapons on the allies.

Edit: And a lot of the rules on fair treatment of POWs and rules on capturing surrendered soldiers also stems of Canadian soldiers behaviours during WW1.

[–] [email protected] 96 points 9 months ago

It was totally justifiable! We had to end the war cuz hockey season was about to start.

[–] Kecessa 47 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

To be fair, French Canadians were overrepresented and didn't want to be there so they figured if they were super good at it they could go back home ASAP.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (8 children)

so the French are cowards, Canadians are teddy bears, but somehow when you combine the two they not only cancel our but hyperamplify the opposite?

[–] [email protected] 98 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The French will riot for weeks if you raise their retirement age. Americans will just complain online if you take away their human rights.

The French are not the cowards.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago

The French shut the entire country down when the government tried to raise the diesel tax by 10 cents, don't fuck with French labor

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago

good point 🤔

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Hydrogen and Oxygen are extremely flammable. When combined they make water.

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[–] Mnemnosyne 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It's like Civ Gandhi with nuclear weapons. Aggression goes negative and wraps around to the max.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

In our defense we were jonesing for maple syrup.

[–] spankinspinach 15 points 9 months ago

We're a simple people, enjoying quiet lives and good standard of living. But threaten our maple syrup - even from afar - and we will give you a reason for the Geneva convention!

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[–] [email protected] 164 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (17 children)

Genocide of our indigenous population mostly. The worst of it ended in 1996 when the last residential school closed. Basically, the Catholic Church under the authorization of the Canadian Federal Government in the 1800s and onwards, abducted children from indigenous communities, took them to boarding schools where they attempted to assimilate them into Eurocentric culture by punishing them for speaking their own language and practicing their own culture. Beatings, sexual abuse, and neglect were commonplace, with many children dying of illness, exposure, or violence. Many children survived the schools and are still alive today to tell us about it. There are also mass graves at several of these schools where children's corpses were dumped and hidden from public view, until ground x-ray technology came around and we found the graves.

Also, random weird fact: women weren't allowed to have bank accounts in Canada until like 1964.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

For me, in the US, Canada is like that child where, if things are quiet, you know they're doing something bad. Because we in the US rarely ever actually hear anything bad about Canada.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago

So this is really not about what Canada alone did, but what Catholic church and Canada did.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The US called their residential schools "boarding schools," but I don't know if those had the same kind of lasting legacy Canada has, based on the schools they had in the US.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Wait… it didn’t close until 1996?

[–] ironeagl 7 points 9 months ago (7 children)

Other random weird fact: Women weren't allowed to have a bank account in the USA until 1974.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Women weren’t allowed to have a bank account in the USA until 1974.

You know that isn't true, right?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Except it was effectively true, because banks were allowed to consider marital status as a risk factor. That was made illegal in 1974. It's in your own article.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The article says the 1974 law concerns credit applications, not bank accounts

[–] pomodoro_longbreak 11 points 9 months ago

I'm going need a 90 minute documentary and a giant bowl of popcorn to absorb all this

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[–] [email protected] 114 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

The Nazi's got the term, and concept, 'final solution' from a Canadian:

"It is readily acknowledged that Indian children lose their natural resistance to illness by habitating so closely in these schools, and that they die at a much higher rate than in their villages. But this alone does not justify a change in the policy of this Department, which is being geared towards the final solution of our Indian Problem."

"…the system was open to criticism. Insufficient care was exercised in the admission of children to the schools. The well-known predisposition of Indians to tuberculosis resulted in a very large percentage of deaths among the pupils. They were housed in buildings not carefully designed for school purposes, and these buildings became infected and dangerous to the inmates. It is quite within the mark to say that fifty per cent of the children who passed through these schools did not live to benefit from the education which they had received therein."

(This is why there was a fair bit of anger in Canada when Civ 6 added Wilfred Laurier as Canada's leader.

EDIT: I transposed Laurier and MacDonald here, as someone pointed out. The above quotes are from Duncan Campbell Scott, as Deputy Superintendent General of Indian Affairs under MacDonald. Laurier was a key architect of the Residential School system. TLDR; MacDonald started the genocide, Laurier built upon it.)

[–] [email protected] 45 points 9 months ago

The Nazis were inspired by New World colonialist, racists policies. Even Hitler admit he was inspired by the eugenics movement from the US.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I’m not disputing any of your points, but Civ 6 has Wilfred Laurier as Canada’s leader

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

Thank you for pointing that out, I switched Laurier and MacDonald after quoting MacDonald's Deputy. Cheers!

[–] can 95 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 114 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

This reminds me of the murals at the Pawnee city hall in parks and rec

Side note: for this atrocity, we Canadians punished the Catholic Church by... Checks notes... Publicly funding all Catholic schools in Canada.

[–] QuantumSparkles 24 points 9 months ago

I immediately thought of Parks & Rec when I saw it. They should hang this up in parliament

[–] can 24 points 9 months ago (3 children)

And how did we punish the RCMP? By allowing them to still exist and making the old uniforms a national icon.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

The RCMP are like the Texas Rangers, they have this clean cut hero PR image, when in reality they're a bunch of thugs and corrupt narcissists.

Even our police are fucked up and almost as bad as American cops, never forget the G20!

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"Publicly funding all Catholic schools in Canada."

All the other sentences in this thread are obviously atrocious, but this one is plain old infuriating.

I know it's an "American" thing, but the people of a country should never be forced to pay for someone else's religious bullshit especially when it's indoctrinating and essentially torturing a portion of the populace.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's fucked we pay for only one specific religion's education system, especially when that religion has trillions of dollars in their coffers

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

they didn't get those trillions by spending their own money

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (7 children)

Lol wait that's a real mural?!

[–] can 34 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

This was a very informative painting and article! Thank you for sharing this!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

That was a great read, thank you.

[–] spankinspinach 6 points 9 months ago

We... Don't have the best track record with indigenous relations (facepalm)

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[–] TheMightyCanuck 66 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"Good" at war : ✅️

Human rights : ❌️

Supporting catholic genocide : ✅️

We have a really weird history that isn't really something to be proud of..

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago

To be fair, that's in line with every country.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 9 months ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago

Never ask a woman her age

Never ask a man his salary

Never ask Canada what the “indigenous boarding schools” were for

Never ask Russia, America, Hamas or Israel why they all see the Geneva Convention as a to-do list

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

There were also jewish refugees that were not allowed into Canada. Afair, the bigger arsehole in that story was the UK, that panicked and decided that everyone who fled Germany during some 193x–194x must certainly be a german spy. They forcefully moved people to camps, and also to foreign territories, but it didn't work terribly well with Canada, too.

I though this to be the article I first heard this story from, but it doesn't seem to address that. Here I found some more details, e.g. on how refugees were in prisoner of war camps along with actual nazis.

Edit: But those are likely not related to the question of what Canada did to become example of how Geneva convention should be, so maybe an unnecessary info ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago

Ignorance aint so bliss anymore lmao

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

To add to the list: internment of Hungarian and Ukrainian Canadians in WWI in Canada (some other Eastern Europeans too); internment of Japanese Canadians in WWII in Canada.

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