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[–] [email protected] 243 points 10 months ago (14 children)

This “not a democracy, a republic” crap is becoming more and more popular on the right. They’re not even trying to hide the authoritarianism and fascism any more. They’re now openly saying they don’t support democracy.

[–] [email protected] 126 points 10 months ago (11 children)

It's literally "democracy = Democrats" and "a republic = republican" to them, simple as.

The Democrats should rename themselves the "Freedom Liberty" party just to fuck with em. Take back some of their words.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago

This is great, call it the Patriot Party or something and talk about how government waste has turned "Citizens On Patrol" into a bunch of lazy, freedom-suppressing, union members.

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[–] gravitas_deficiency 175 points 10 months ago (7 children)

If the American electorate was slightly less stupid, I’d be ecstatic, because he made himself effectively kryptonite to reasonable, intelligent people with that statement.

Unfortunately, the American electorate is, on average, that stupid.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 10 months ago (2 children)

What's worse is that the average is weighted further toward stupid by gerrymandering. They're right that the game is rigged, it's just not rigged against them.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago

Yup. That about sums it up. You guys wanna talk about something else or?

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[–] [email protected] 167 points 10 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 121 points 10 months ago

This is seditious.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This is the scariest part about it

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/f90a6d6d-9a07-456f-aec8-d7c897faf9d7.jpeg

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[–] [email protected] 103 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

They treat the Constitution like they do their bible.

They don’t read it.

If they do read it, they just read the bits they agree with.

If they read the parts that don’t fit their desired narrative, they engage in mental gymnastics to reinterpret what was written to fit their desires.

Edit:

Jefferson's reply did not address their concerns about problems with state establishment of religion — only of establishment on the national level. The letter contains the phrase "wall of separation between church and state," which led to the short-hand for the Establishment Clause that we use today: "Separation of church and state."

Which led to the Establishment Clause…

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion...

And also The point of Article 6 wherein no religious test is to be given to hold office.

Better?

[–] [email protected] 42 points 10 months ago (1 children)

From article VI (3rd paragraph)

"The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executige and judicial officers, both of the united states and of the several states, shall be bound by oath of affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I don't want to be that guy, but in fairness, ol' boy didn't actually say "biblical republic" (He just wheeled out the old "constitutional Republic" bit).

Doesn't make this any better, but I want to be sure we criticize with facts.

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[–] catsarebadpeople 79 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Over under on this guy being a pedophile?

[–] [email protected] 58 points 10 months ago (12 children)

He's either a pedo or dogfucker, there was some statement from him about how homosexuality was bad because it makes people want to have sex with their dog.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Why is it that every time a dumbass steps down from being speaker, you guys manage to find an even bigger wanker? It's kinda impressive, honestly.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

So this is the alternative history they want to write eh?

Clown, it was called the "Enlightenment Age" for a reason, people started breaking the chains of organized religion. Yes they were Christians, but they knew enough to not trust religion as a form of government.

Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness in the material world are some of the founding principles, not "death, misery and suffering but maybe get lucky choosing the right god and you'll be rewarded with eternal paradise..."

If they founded the country on the Bible, we'd live in a theocracy with no elections and no opposition parties.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 10 months ago (9 children)

This is why they kicked out McCarthy. This batshit motherfucker is going to drive so many voters to the Dems. Keep amplifying his insane bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 10 months ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 52 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This batshit motherfucker is going to drive so many voters to the Dems. Keep amplifying his insane bullshit.

Surely boosting far-right candidates won't backfire again clueless

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 10 months ago (1 children)

White Taliban gonna Taliban

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago

Y’all Qaeda.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 10 months ago

Christians always try to re-history the world in their favor. They are the most dishonest hypocritical fascists.
Then again, they stole most of what their religion allegedly stands for.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It's in the First Amendment. It's more important than the Second Amendment. This guy is dangerous.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Separation of church and state is both the first amendment and a clause in article six of the constitution:

First Amendment:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof

article six

no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

Thomas Jefferson's use of the words "separation of church and state" was to explain the purpose of the first amendment specifically but the actual legal text of the constitution is worded broadly enough to cover not only separation of church and state but separation of mosque/synagogue/ect and state rather than singling out Christianity.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well the good news is that just because this fuckbrain said it doesn't make it true.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 9 months ago (5 children)

This is literally frightening to read that any American politician would think this. I don't see how any moderate R could support this train of thought.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I mean, in essence, he's not wrong.

Nearly every federal legislator is Christian and votes that way. Some states still (symbolically, since they're unenforceable) ban atheists from holding public office too, not that you'd even have a chance of winning public office being openly atheist.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 10 months ago

When he won the spot he said “good to see our democracy working” or something like that. Fucking shameless lunatic

[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yo. Shit for brains. Here's the deal.

Get your god on the ballot. We'll vote for it. If it wins then maybe we'll give a listen to what it's got to say.

Otherwise keep that fucker OUT of our government.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Isn't that effectively what he's doing? A vote for him is a vote for his opinions, including that of God.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Republicans (see, it's right there in the name) have been openly mocking people who think we live in a democracy for literally my entire life

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago

Fucking excellent. I'm so sick of this ride. Life could be soooo good. Yet this shit exists

[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I see this nutjob has no idea what he's talking about and cannot fulfill the duties of his oath of office, so he should simply be removed from office, right? Right guys?

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago

This guy is a fuck

[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago

Guillotine.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Hopefully this guy won't last past this election cycle.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Mike Johnson, the banalityest of evil.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What are the first ten word of the first amendment you hold so dearly when a minority asks you politely to be nice?

WHAT ARE THE FIRST TEN WORDS, MOTHERFUCKER!?

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (7 children)

I can't wait for my first chance to ask someone the following:

"I have three questions: 1. What does 'Democracy' mean? 2. What does 'Republic' mean? 3. What is your point?"

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