Never on the right side of history.
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We were that one time, and we’ve been milking it ever since.
WW2, we only joined because Japan attacked. Otherwise, there were elements of the US population that were cheering for Hitler.
We also nuked two cities, for reasons much less honorable or necessary than the one we are told.
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The US has never opposed fascism - Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany were colonialist rivals threatening US hegemony and influence and nothing more.
Prior to Pearl Harbour, the US funded the Japanese as the Japanese committed countless war crimes and genocide in China.
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That was mostly by accident. IMO America's actions in and around WW2 are better understood as the result of two expanding empires bumping into one another (America and Japan)
We were that one time, and we’ve been milking it ever since.
Only until 2006 which is when the UK finally managed to pay the US back the "lend lease" debt it racked up in WWII
Wonder how long it will take for Ukraine to pay back theirs, they're on a Lend Lease from the US right now.
You & I are the only people who seem to know this. Everyone else is busy arguing whether we can “afford” to give Ukraine “free stuff”, when in reality none of it is free, and whatever few Ukrainians are left alive after this war will be paying onerous debt for generations. They’re already auctioning off many public assets to mostly foreign buyers at fire sale prices, up to and including seaports.
Yeah it's crazy. Ukraine is a fire sale and the debt will be on the US govt books as an asset.
Makes me realise, a lot of things we read in history books that seem cut and dried, were probably not at all obvious to the people who lived at the time because their perception of facts was probably as skewed as our societies' perceptions are now.
Imperial America is a death cult.
…In the fields, bodies burning as the war machine keeps turning…
What's particularly notable is that US vetoed the resolution that Russia put out on the basis that it did not condemn Hamas. However, US also vetoed subsequent resolution by Brazil that did condemn Hamas without giving a coherent explanation for the second veto. The only conclusion that can be reasonably drawn here is that US regime wants people to suffer and die. US is intentionally enabling a genocide in Gaza against the will of the rest of the world.
To sum up, fuck the US regime.
without giving a coherent explanation for the second veto
They said that they vetoed because "Brazil didn't say that Israel has a right of self-defense".
That's not a coherent explanation given that the purpose of the resolution is to have a ceasefire as in both sides ceasing hostilities.
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The UN is such a fucking joke
The UN should use resolution 377A and define a plan of action without the US. Give them a taste of their own poison.
Whatever that is on paper, in reality it represents the overthrow of the UN
all palestinian violence against israel is self-defense.
I love democracy.
Cunts
Why is veto even a thing?
I think mostly because the Allied Powers won WWII and got to make the rules. Often the argument is made that, by giving the nuclear-capable countries veto power, they’re less likely to use those weapons, but that might be more of a rationalization than the actual reason.
All it really boils down to is that the UN is toothless when trying to regulate any nuclear-armed country and any country or conflict a nuclear-armed country has an interest in. It absolutely sets certain countries apart in a multi-tiered system of international cooperation.
@Luccajan basically the UN is a forum for dialogue and we need the big players to be part of it.
If they don't get veto on the security council they will have a tantrum and leave, which will benefit no one.
The superpowers already flout international law when they really want to, because there is nothing the rest of us can do to stop them, but it would probably be far worse if they weren't even part of the UN.
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Can anyone explain the true reason why US make such decision?
As of October 2023, the United States has 599 active Foreign Military Sales (FMS) cases, valued at $23.8 billion, with Israel.
Money. The answer is always money.
It would put Israel "on the back foot" in regards to the conflict. Israel would be tied up negotiating for hostage release which is exactly where Hamas wants them. It stops being a question of who is winning a battle and turns it into "how much is Israel willing to sacrifice".
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